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Mine is retail work. Yeah I get it. You hate it. There isn't anything that I hadn't heard before about it by now that hasn't already been said. Yup, people suck.

But on the same token, I don't really appreciate the level people go to, to dissuade people from getting into retail work. Job is a job and income is income. You'll need both of these things. I've learned that a lot of the time, people just happen to be employed by shitty stores that are managed by power-tripping people or maybe the team they work with are annoyingly incompetent.

Yet if you manage to find a store that's worth working in, it's worth it for however long you want to be there for. I chose to work for retail. I don't mind the labor. I don't want a sit-down desk job.

And yeah I work for a big company that has questionable values and has destroyed communities. But that's really out of my control and because that I work for said company, does not necessarily mean that I agree with it or side with the corporate standards. If I wanted to, I'd go back to school and find something else to do.

And that's what I advise people to do if they're so tired of their retail job. Go back to school, it's really all you can do other than go to trade school to get skills and branch into different careers. Just bitching about it all day is not going to do a thing. I used to be like that but all it does was just make me hate everything and there were a couple points where I could've gotten fired over it. It's not worth getting fired over something you don't really have an investment in.

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[-] Baggie@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 day ago

Advertisements.

Like obviously we need to make people know things exist, it makes financial and logical sense, etc.

On the other hand, this is bullshit. It's an ever increasing blight on the senses in both online and offline spaces. It's at the point where massive companies cannot function without plastering ads over everything. Fuck that. If we can't function without some garish assault of a cacophony to our psyche every few minutes, maybe we need to rethink what we're doing with our existence.

[-] joshthewaster@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

“Like obviously we need to make people know things exist, it makes financial and logical sense, etc.“

Why is this obvious? I know it's so normal that me asking seems weird but, is this really how the world has to work? Can we not imagine a world without ads? I'd like to at least try.

[-] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago

I'm a practicing Christian that goes to church every Sunday, and yet I believe in abortion and birth control like I invented them. I love babies and hold one most Sundays during the sermon and think they're a miracle, but also if you don't want to be pregnant don't for one second hesitate to have the abortion. Your life matters way way more than some cells.

[-] Taalnazi@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Most Christians in Europe are like this too, tbh

[-] bruhsoulz@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 days ago

Theres no such thing as "too much privacy" but at same time too much privacy can make it near impossible to catch pedos and shit like that :/

[-] HatchetHaro@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 2 days ago

Gun control in the US.

Gun control would normally work in any other country, but guns are so ingrained in American culture and history that it is infeasible to simply just implement gun control and expect everything to work.

Couple that gun culture with a whole lot of systemic issues (capitalism, remnants of racist laws, wealth inequality, healthcare, police brutality, education system, firearms safety) and you get the gun violence rampant across the US.

Gun control won't work on its own. If you want to get rid of guns, you gotta fix everything at the same time, which won't happen because half the country would vote against progress and their own interests in the name of "owning the libs".

[-] wuphysics87@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago

Maybe we should encourage people to keep their guns as police get more and more militerized

[-] Didros@beehaw.org 1 points 1 day ago

Australia already showed us that it isn't even that hard. And it was incredibly effective. It's just that the largest gun manufacturers can spend over 100% of their profits on paying politicians and talking heads to keep things this way.

Australia is a great parallel for your arguments. The same "we had to concur the wilderness" history and all. I believe they have not had a mass shooting since 2008 when they passed their gun control.

[-] Etterra@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

You can't fix stupid (in America), but you also can't stop it from doing catastrophic damage.

[-] pastermil@sh.itjust.works 23 points 2 days ago

Proprietary products.

I am a big fan of free & open source, and I believe as much as possible should be open source, especially the essential ones, but at the same time, people need to get paid.

[-] todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee 12 points 2 days ago

I know this is said a lot, but it clearly needs to be said again. The "Free" in FOSS means "Freedom" not "Gratis". You can sell FOSS. You can make money off of FOSS. People do it all the time.

[-] davidgro@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

But it is more difficult - by definition, anyone can just fork what you are selling and sell it themselves cheaper or free. Of course there is value in customer service, maintenance, hosting, etc. and those can be sold, but the actual code is tougher. Some projects bypass it by having proprietary add-ons or versions, since the open part itself is hard to monetize.

[-] Tehdastehdas@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

There should be a system that pays for producing value to all life. Something bigger than UN.

[-] A_Very_Big_Fan@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

I'm a very big fan.

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[-] OceanSoap@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

Cycling on the road.

On the one hand, biking is great and they should be able to bike on any road! And we should be careful when driving near them, it's super scary being so unprotected and so close to metal speed bombs hurling around them.

On the other hand, road bikers are fucking annoying, stay in your goddamn lane and stop slowing down traffic. I'm not reading your dumb hand signals, either!

[-] TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

On the other hand, road bikers are fucking annoying, stay in your goddamn lane and stop slowing down traffic. I'm not reading your dumb hand signals, either!

I sometimes road bike. If there’s a bike lane I’ll stay in it. But I am entitled to a lane if there isn’t a bike lane, so on a four-lane road with no bike lane I will not go to the shoulder, I will ride in the center of the right lane to maximize my visibility. It’s infuriating how many dickhole drivers give me like a quarter of the lane when they pass me unless I take the center of the lane.

(It is legal for me to ride on the sidewalk in my county, but I cannot maintain my preferred 40kph (25mph) on a sidewalk. Too bumpy, and too many pedestrians. It is also legal for me to ride on the road.)

Hand signals aren’t hard. There are, as far as I know, three important ones. Arm straight out means I’m turning that direction. Arm bent up means I’m turning the opposite direction. Arm bent down means I’m stopping, though my bike has brake lights so I don’t usually use this one.

[-] RBWells@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

Sidewalk riding is dangerous here. I ride sometimes on the sidewalk but that's awful for pedestrians and so treacherous at intersections. Better to be in the road, I just try to find routes on smaller less busy roads.

[-] BigPotato@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

BMW drivers have the same opinions about whatever you're driving too... Even other Beemers. At least the second part.

[-] lath@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

Everything has pros and cons.

Most people tend to see only the pros of the things that favour them and downplay the cons that affect others. Which is why we come to hate each other so often.

For example, life and death are a cycle. Can't have one without the other. People may have different goalposts on what deaths they think they're willing to cause in order to survive, but whether it's animals, plants or even microbial organisms, some living beings have to die in order for others to live. (But it's fine because there's so many of them and they can't think or feel pain, probably. Eh, who cares anyway, gotta eat something!)

Due to the limitations of operating at a loss, a demerit is unavoidable. The problem is having to constantly fine tune the balance in order to do the least harm. And yet even that is a self-appointed right and responsibility in lack of anything else.

[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 39 points 3 days ago

I oppose violence. There are some people who cause so much harm that I wish they'd die. I don't wish for violence to occur, but I wouldn't be sad if it happened and I had nothing to do with it.

[-] Didros@beehaw.org 3 points 1 day ago

The systems allow people to do harm, we need to violently oppose them.

Jeff Bezo may suck as a person, but capitalism is designed to make people like him as the ruling class. If you don't like it, fight it.

[-] davidgro@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

"I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure."

  • Clarence Darrow

(I thought it was Mark Twain before I looked it up for the wording)

[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 day ago

Clarence Darrow

Had to look him up to see why I recognized the name. Ah'm offended that you thank Ah'm a monkey! Ah'm takin' you ta court! Legend.

[-] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 44 points 3 days ago

I think prohibition is a massive failure of a policy and bullshit moral war and that everything about drugs would be safer and better if they were easily available to whoever seeks them.

However, I know from experience when you're desperate and not well that you'll reach for anything and this can often have severe, predictable collateral consequences for those around someone with maladaptive drug use.

Also people are generally dumb as fuck with drugs and we've all been there. Like, the stakes can be much higher with them involved and life is already basicaly a meat-grinder so I worry about people's abillity to learn to use responsibly and persevere or operate functionally in often deeply problematic home and work environments when its infinitely complicated by various random substances that can become lighter fuel for massive self-destruction and harm to others

[-] Zorg 35 points 3 days ago

Death penalty

On one hand, I don't believe capital punishment has any place in civilized society.
On the other, there are some in-human people (serial killers mainly, but including e.g. CEOs who have caused thousands of deaths to increase profits), where it just seems a waste of everyone's time, to lock them away in a cell for decades. Some people are just completely beyond rehabilitation, and if they are proven guilty with 99.9+% certainty, what's the point of locking then up and waiting for old age to do the job?

[-] weeeeum@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

Good luck getting that CEO in a court room

[-] Jackthelad@lemmy.world 30 points 3 days ago

The problem with the death penalty is largely down to potential miscarriages of justice.

What if they get the wrong person and some innocent is put to death? Do you really want the state to have that sort of power over its citizens?

[-] howrar@lemmy.ca 10 points 3 days ago

There's been two cases of this happening very recently that's been making the rounds on Lemmy. Two dudes on death row, new evidence comes up that puts their guilty judgement into question and their execution proceeds anyway.

[-] Ledivin@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Didn't only one of the executions proceed? I thought one was stayed (but maybe it still happened later, idk)

[-] howrar@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

Possible. I haven't been following them that closely.

[-] MrPoopbutt@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

In order to get 99.9% certainty, 1) you are saying you are willing to have one in a thousand death penalties against innocents, and 2) that requires a system made of people to do their job correctly 99.9% of the time. I dont think there is a job on earth that people in a large group can do that well.

[-] saigot@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 days ago

It is significantly cheaper to keep someone in prison for life than the death sentence process.

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[-] GrammarPolice@lemmy.world 17 points 3 days ago

My two-sided opinion is that as a defence for veganism/vegetarianism, animal suffering is inconsequential. I used to use the example of flies. Would you hurt a fly? If you would, then what gives you grounds to claim that the lives of any "higher-order functioning" animal is more valuable.

My opinion on this became two sided when i learnt that most insects don't experience pain the same way most mammals do.

[-] moonlight@fedia.io 22 points 3 days ago

Regardless of pain perception: Assuming someone is okay with killing a fruit fly but not a human, they have to draw the line somewhere. And a pig for example is WAY closer to human than to a fruit fly. It's a sentient being with a brain that's not really so far from human, compared to the fruit fly which is essentially a tiny biological robot.

In fact, it's kinda weird to draw the line at humans, especially when there's such a big overlap between other animals and human children in terms of cognitive capabilities.

I think it's very reasonable to draw the line after insects, where we can be reasonably certain that there's no complex thought or sentience. The value and subjective experience of an insect versus a farm animal are hardly comparable.

[-] S13Ni@lemmy.studio 19 points 3 days ago

This, and if you eat vegan, it will also limit the damage done to bugs as a result of smaller land use. I'm vegan with no exceptions, but I don't really give a fuck about being vegan in some weird absolute way like "can I sit on leather chair at my friends". Instead of that, veganism is just an attempt to reduce suffering, with full understanding that it is never going to remove it, and that there are other ways to to reduce suffering in the world without being vegan, which I also try to implement in my life.

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[-] usualsuspect191@lemmy.ca 13 points 3 days ago

This is something I think about from time to time and essentially get nowhere.

I try and live-capture and release bugs from my house (the only things I actively kill in this regard is mosquitos).I also hunt/fish.

If I saw a deer trapped on a frozen lake I'd go out and rescue it, yet I'd shoot that same deer in a different place under a different context. It's not really consistent, except in intentionality I suppose.

I do place a higher value on the life of animals that are more "intelligent" (in a way that feels more human) compared to other animals. For example, I'm not upset at all when I use hand sanitizer and presumably wipe out a whole swath of life, but I'm sad if a bird hits a window and dies. Part of that is the intentionality again maybe? The bacteria "had" to die, and the bird didn't; I'd feel less bad about the bird if I saw a natural predator take it down but it's still more upsetting than even unintentionally killing an insect.

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[-] Euphorazine@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago

Housing needs to be less commodimized, but tons of normal families have their entire network tied up in a home.

Any act that raises home prices hurts though without and any act that lowers home prices hurts those with. How can we untangle homes being family's largest asset without screwing older people.

Without homes and apartments being a commodity, how do we determine who gets to live where fairly? Isn't there like 10x as many vacancies than homeless people? So it's not a supply issue, it's a location issue. The open market is great for sorting that out, but the open market has abused housing and is squeezing too hard.

I don't like that home prices are as high as they are, and we need to change our mindset about how home pricing should work. It needs both government oversight and market forces.

[-] Ledivin@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The housing crisis has literally nothing to do with families owning a single home. There is far more than enough housing for everyone in the country. We need to outlaw AirBnB everywhere, and outlaw corporate ownership of residences.

I don't even care about the people who have multiple homes, they're just small fries in comparison. We can do them after the corporations all switch to that business model.

[-] weeeeum@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

In every policy change there will be losers and winners, lowering the cost of housing has been a long time coming. So long in fact people assume it's a great way to invest and raise money.

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