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submitted 2 days ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world

Summary

The Guardian has announced it will stop posting on Elon Musk’s platform, X, citing "often disturbing content" such as far-right conspiracy theories and racism.

The news outlet, with 27 million followers across over 80 accounts, stated that the US presidential election coverage on X reinforced its view that the platform had become "toxic."

While The Guardian's official accounts will withdraw, reporters may still use X for newsgathering.

This move follows similar actions by NPR, PBS, and other organizations concerned about the platform’s content standards under Musk’s ownership.

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[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 242 points 2 days ago
[-] anarchrist@lemmy.dbzer0.com 100 points 2 days ago

Yeah it really shouldn't take actual fascism to get people off predatory social media but here we are

[-] samus12345@lemmy.world 21 points 2 days ago

Even then, most of them are still using it.

[-] x00z@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago

I just love how we went from naming it "Twitter" to "Elon Musk's platform, X".

[-] mint_tamas@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago

The intermediate step was “X, formerly known as Twitter”

[-] rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee 7 points 1 day ago

Elon Musk's platform, X, formerly known as Twitter.

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[-] CAVOK@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

Xitter. Pronounced just the way you think.

[-] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 105 points 2 days ago

Can we get them to join Mastodon?

I think it's ideal for new services. They can spin up an instance pretty easily through their existing IT department. They have total control and total freedom because they run the platform. Then federate with other instances to have a reach of millions instantly.

The only reason every news organization isn't doing it is just bad marketing. As far as I know, there's no marketing budget for mastodon.

[-] moe90@feddit.nl 23 points 2 days ago

Bluesky also a nice alternative.

[-] ZeroCool@slrpnk.net 46 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Bluesky is like the Fediverse equivalent of bumper bowling. Don't get me wrong, there's definitely a place for it, and it's better than staying on Twitter, but I do hope it ends up being just a stepping stone for people to get comfortable before taking off the guard rails and moving on to actual federated services like Mastodon or Lemmy.

[-] BossDj@lemm.ee 18 points 2 days ago

It's the fediverse equivalent of the Democratic candidate that DNC is trying to shove down our throat. Fine, I need them to win to beat the evil GOP candidate, but if rather have Bernie

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[-] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 28 points 2 days ago

Not really, it's still corporate

[-] moe90@feddit.nl 30 points 2 days ago

normies does not really care about corporate or not. the good thing about bluesky are: easy signups compare to mastodon (noobs do not want to join "servers"), better language filter than mastodon (I tried to pick specific language on mastodon setting. But, I still got unused language that I want to see), customized feed (good to find engagement), less ragebait than X and it is open source.

[-] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 20 points 2 days ago

If news organizations, universities, and governments begin adopting Mastodon, then others will follow

[-] Kalysta@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago

Also way better user moderation than X. Blocklists are amazing.

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[-] sibachian@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

just like reddit is a nice alternative to digg ammirite?

we're on lemmy for a reason mate. if digg is the equivalent of x, then reddit is the equivalent of bluesky, and lemmy is the equivalent of mastodon.

one of those three are not like the other, and one will stick around while the others won't, because capitalism.

[-] TORFdot0@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Bluesky is less ideal as ATProto isn’t really feasible to use without relying on their relays. Thankfully there are bridges but the most ideal solution would be for ATProto and AP to be able to federate directly

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[-] savx@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

i remember bbc had an experimental mastodon instance, but they dont seem to post anything anymore. i hope they'll give an update on the trial, anything they found out good bad unworthy whatsoever.

[-] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Classic first adopter problem.

The thing is I believe that there's a real argument for a use case for news organizations, governments, and colleges.

If they're just seeking engagement, then they have to wait for the platform to grow. But this isn't about that.

Many news organizations already have comment sections on their website, and they want to push out information on breaking news as quickly as possible. They need a platform to do those things. So, a lot of them use Facebook for embedded comments on the page and Xitter to breaking news. The thing is that they could use mastodon for both, and run their own instance, which would give them total control and not be at the mercy of Musk or Zuck.

Colleges use expensive proprietary messaging apps for students, clubs, and teachers that they can monitor and adjust to fit their needs. Mastodon offers that.

Governments sometimes end up in legal hot water due to freedom of information, etc. that comes with corporate social media. Mastodon offers the freedoms and controls necessary to disseminate vital information and to allow or reject posts as required by local laws.

The point is that Mastodon is an effective public facing communication system that also allows internal controls by the host.

The only publicity and marketing budget that the fediverse has is us, so any opportunity to promote it is our job. Government, education, news. These are the vital areas to promote.

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[-] Sgt_choke_n_stroke@lemmy.world 34 points 1 day ago

If athletes leave Twitter then ESPN won't post their tweets.

Just saying

[-] nexguy@lemmy.world 44 points 2 days ago
[-] dance_ninja@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

Tempted to join just to help boost those numbers.

I did. Lol. Never gonna use it :P

[-] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 day ago

On my phone, it’s #1 under most downloaded of ALL apps hahaha

[-] Mog_fanatic@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

I just checked in Android and it's surprisingly #8. Friggin threads is #3 which is shocking cause I never hear or see anything about it. X is at #25 just behind mcdonalds lol. I'm not smart enough to know exactly what that means tho because pretty much everyone already has X/Twitter/whatever the fuck it's called so of course that wouldn't show up super high on there. I've also had multiple phones with it preloaded onto the OS.

Of course instagram and tik tok and Snapchat and Whatsapp are all pretty high up there so maybe it's pretty solid evidence of that dumpster fire actually burning.

[-] lazycouchpotato@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Threads posts show up on Instagram and if you want to view one it redirects you to the Play Store. I feel that's why it's so high up.

[-] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 43 points 2 days ago

I get all the Guardian info from their unofficial account on Mastodon https://mas.to/@theguardian

[-] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 26 points 2 days ago

there's been a lot of myopic tunnel vision behavior from otherwise well-informed intelligent people over the last many years.

even now, people are shuffling about, carrying on like literally nothing just happened

get yourself informed and prepared. if not for you, then for your people. you have about a month and a half

[-] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 34 points 2 days ago

even now, people are shuffling about, carrying on like literally nothing just happened

get yourself informed and prepared. if not for you, then for your people. you have about a month and a half

I live paycheck to paycheck and have a family to support. What preparation do you think I'm going to do beyond grabbing my ankles and praying?

[-] wanderingmagus@lemm.ee 1 points 21 hours ago

Joining mutual aid groups, coops, triple-checking that you don't have any subscriptions you don't absolutely need and doing your best to just use FOSS (it's free!) instead for the sake of your own limited paycheck, triple-check that you're taking advantage of the free programs and resources available to you like libraries and buy-nothing collectives, try growing a bit of your own food in used jars and buckets, encourage your children to also take advantage of the free resources they might not even know are available to them and ways to save even more by simply reusing every last bit they can if they aren't already? Get to know your neighbors if you have any time left in your day, parents of your kids' classmates? I don't know your situation - none of these might be realistic for you - but those are some of the free ways I could think of off the top of my head for preparing.

[-] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 9 points 2 days ago

Buy canned goods, look into how to perserve food, look into local support groups, and co-ops for social and food aspects.

Look into VPNs to make sure you have the ability to see what's going on and not be limited internet wise.

Look into running for your local government, school board, whatever you can to limit the effect these assholes can do.

[-] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 days ago

that's the question everyone needs to be sitting down and thinking about. there's no one answer for everyone, but "do nothing" isn't one i would settle for

[-] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 days ago

I'm glad you've got options.

[-] Absaroka@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

If we can get all of the sports reporters to head over, that might be the final death blow to Twitter.

[-] QuentinCallaghan@sopuli.xyz 18 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Hopefully many other news outlets around the world follow suit. I once emailed Yle, Finland's state media outlet about how staying on Twitter doesn't work and why Mastodon (and the Fediverse in general) would be the better option. Later they shut some of their Twitter accounts down.... and continuing on other platforms such as TikTok.

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[-] LittleBorat3@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

Yes because fuck Elon. His own postings have a multiplicatior and things he does not like have the opposite. What's the point of using his shitty right wing platform?

You have to engage with them? Dumbass, these people do not play fair. I hate how legacy media foolishly embraced these idiots playing fair and now guess what.

[-] tehn00bi@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

I miss Tom. He was just your friend and never pushed anything on you.

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[-] FelixCress@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

Very good. Hopefully others will follow.

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

Better late than never

Lol. Good job.

[-] laurelraven@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Better watch out, Musk might sue

(/s, just in case it wasn't obvious enough)

[-] Awesomo85@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

My sincerest wish is that Elon Musk just waits until an X alternative gets big enough, buys it and destroys it in perpetuity. Save the people from their addiction to "likes" and "shares".

He would be my absolute hero!!

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