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[-] Allonzee@lemmy.world 2 points 31 minutes ago* (last edited 12 minutes ago)

I grew up watching Star Trek and, once believing humanity was capable of far more nobility than it is, the idea that we are going to one day spread to the stars is both sad and hilarious.

We couldn't make Earth work. We couldn't stop knowingly damaging a basically infinitely forgiving environment that recycles our water, air, and waste auto-fucking-magically. We had to multiply with no consideration, emit fuels to harm that virtuous system with reckless abandon eyes wide open, and literally engineer materials from the earth that the Earth couldn't easily re-absorb and then make infinite useless pop figure crap out of it. We just had to stop growing/metastizing our people, and just as importantly our economy, aka our Ferngully smog monster Earth thrashing machine, and live within our still exceptionally bountiful means. Nope, moooaaaaar!

Yes, a dozen or two perfect specimen, perfectly trained apex humans can go to Mars and grow potatoes in a tent to inspire us, but an actual colony of hundreds or thousands of regular humans, some of which inevitably born into a place where a single thoughtless, reckless, or GREEDY action can easily mean boom, everybody dead in an instant, womp, womp try again? Lol, have you met us?

Bezos, Musk, Zuck doesn't matter. If those antsy, insatiably greedy fucks or those like them ever tried to leave with a hundred human laborers or a hundred humanoid robots, they'd be dead within 6 months of landing, because they'd keep pushing shit beyond their tolerances to INCREASE production or ACCELERATE construction beyond the original plans they already half assed and took liberties with.

That's why, to me, taking funding away from international agencies and those like NASA was the death knell of humanity's space faring dreams and final confirmation we don't have it in us. Space colonization in its early forms would take a level of sustained human selfless cooperation we just aren't capable of, especially factoring in that our most successfully greedy fucks have been allowed to coopt that dream and turn it into an absolute nightmare of being born into internment colony having to work 12 hour days to pay for the recycled air you consumed that day until Elon blows you up trying to adjust his suite's 02 saturation to 30% by lowering everyone else's to 15% because he was bored and needed to get just a lil moar than everyone else yet again to feel superior.

[-] SquatDingloid@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

The idea that the rich could escape earth and not die here in the climate wars is total cope from nepo babies

[-] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 34 points 12 hours ago

One thing this comic misses and is silly is that billionaires would die without the working/slave class and they know it. They need someone to produce their food, their luxury goods, nd maintain the machines. They don't have that in space or mars. If the atmosphere becomes literally poisonous they will probably build a dome around their mansions.

[-] blazeknave@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

The slaves are eating the cricket bars in the other vault

[-] jaybone@lemmy.world 13 points 11 hours ago

Those domes better be rocket proof. Or just rock proof.

[-] assassinatedbyCIA@lemmy.world 5 points 3 hours ago

They’ll have killer drones that israel is currently testing on children in Gaza to keep you and the rest of the non loyal unwashed masses away silly.

[-] Matty_r@programming.dev 6 points 11 hours ago

Also, they need customers.

[-] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 hours ago

The rich don’t do any work and don’t buy what they sell

They can easily be a planet away and still extract wealth from the people left behind. If pollution causes people to die quicker it doesn’t matter to them

If pollution causes scarcity then they become richer

If pollution causes extinction then they are dead so it doesn’t matter

[-] sukhmel@programming.dev 1 points 1 hour ago

Hmm, that really sounds like a win-win situation 🤔

[-] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 9 hours ago

Once the economy collapses, they just hoard slaves and servants and pay them with scraps.

[-] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago

Mmm, delicious, moist scraps...

[-] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 7 points 9 hours ago

Why do people always get so upset about spaceflight? There are plenty of other things the oligarchs can be legitimately criticised for yet people always obsess about this.

[-] _pi@lemmy.ml 15 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Because it's become obvious to many people that these problems of climate and class-based wealth accumulation, cannot techohopiumed out of. Space exploration did lead do useful technology and scientific advancement, but in our current era our relationship to space is no longer star trek, it's snowpiercer in space. The average person no longer has a positive view because they are crushed under a capitalist class that seeks to leave them behind, hence the comic.

[-] tee9000@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

Spaceflight is really important to humanity. Mining resources and proving concepts should be done. Having it carried out by corporations isnt ideal but thay doesnt mean it is better to stop. Let them burn their cash on r&d. Space is really high risk with inconsistent profitability.

[-] _pi@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

If you think corporations are going to outlay the capital to develop a realistic extra-planetary mining technology soup to nuts and in comparable time to public investment, you should be licking Elon Musk's boots.

Let them burn their cash on r&d

Damn if only we could use that cash for something else.

[-] tee9000@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

You cant mine without reliable spaceflight, which is whats being proven now. Obviously spacex's cash would not be used to buy everyone dinner if they stopped spaceflight operations, so im not sure how your take is in the realm of reality. If you want to attribute spacex's work to elon alone then thats your business.

[-] _pi@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 hours ago

You cant mine without reliable spaceflight, which is whats being proven now.

The following interplanetary flights to Mars: Sojourner (1997), Spirit (2004–2010), Opportunity (2004–2018), Curiosity (2012–present), Perseverance (2021-Present), and Zhurong (2021-2022) weren't enough to "prove out reliable space flight" for you?

You need MarsCoin to do it?

[-] sukhmel@programming.dev 2 points 1 hour ago

I would argue that you mentioned events that were rare and much prepared (also omit failed attempts), while what is required for any resource extraction must be mass-available. On the other hand, I don't think any space resource mining will be reasonable, as I expect it to require more resources than provide.

[-] tee9000@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

There have also been failures at a rate that would make human space flight concerning. Why wouldnt more experience be better? You are saying we didnt learn anything about space flight with each mission?

I dont know what mars coin is. Why do you generalize my appreciation for spaceflight to other unrelated opinions? Im not a group of people, im an individual who you know nothing about. Stop with the weird guessing of my beliefs.

[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

We’re not mining anything in space anytime soon. The climate crisis will end that possibility long before we can develop automated systems sufficient to get the mechanics in place and ore safely back to wherever it’s needed on Earth.

Right now spaceflight is just another profit vehicle for billionaires. The don’t get paid because of the work the companies do, they get paid because the stocks they have from those companies keep going up.

[-] tee9000@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

Lemmy commenter used layman heuristics!

Lemmy commenter missed!

[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 5 points 5 hours ago

Not to mention that any and all new research isn't coming out of these companies, and is locked behind a paywall. They are actively stifling innovation by hoarding the data that used to give us neat things like Velcro.

[-] Mordex@lemmy.world 27 points 9 hours ago

I think this comic might be suggesting that they’re leaving the planet since it’s all used up and the worker is sitting there with nothing left on the planet as the rich flys off to another planet? I don’t think it’s specifically angry at space flight.

[-] CTDummy@lemm.ee 46 points 14 hours ago

Wow, no panels showing how beneficial to shareholders it all was. Won’t someone think of the shareholders?

[-] undergroundoverground@lemmy.world 20 points 13 hours ago

Excuse me, none of you are paid to reflect on our planet's ability to sustain life being killed for the benefit of a few fantastically wealthy people.

Get back to work!

[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 10 points 11 hours ago

Can't eat the rich if you can't reach the rich.

[-] PineRune@lemmy.world 36 points 15 hours ago
[-] MelodiousFunk@slrpnk.net 33 points 13 hours ago

Asking the real questions.

[-] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 5 points 11 hours ago

Don't worry, that rocket is new shepherd, so you can eat him when it comes back down in 30 min. New shepherd doesn't get to orbit, it just does 100km hops straight up.

[-] Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.world 31 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

*slaps side*

You can fit so many tech bros in this thing.

Sorry fat politicians, maybe next trip.

Edit: Mystery Rocket SLAMS Dome Over Mysterious California City

[-] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 12 points 16 hours ago

Hmm, do you think if we over-reported the reliability statistics, we could get the tech bros to strap themselves to missiles sooner?

[-] Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 13 hours ago

Or maybe convince them that DIY submarines are a good cheap alternative

I hear the Mariana Trench is beautiful this time of year

[-] Godric@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago

I just want to say you have such a musical, even melodious name. DaDaDaDa-DA, it flows so well <3

[-] SnokenKeekaGuard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 17 hours ago

Insert boiling frog story

[-] Fleur_@lemm.ee -4 points 9 hours ago

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