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Windows VS Linux (lemmy.world)
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[-] ordellrb@lemmy.world 1 points 43 minutes ago* (last edited 42 minutes ago)

Windows 11 without a Microsoft-Account = terminal required. Linux Mint = terminal not required.

[-] thedirtyknapkin@lemmy.world 9 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

brother, 99% of users will never even consider installing their own os. the issue isn't that Linux is hard to install, the issue is that pretty much anyone brave enough to even mess with their operating system is either already on Linux, a boomer, or trapped by professional software that isn't available on Linux (that's me, a videographer)

the only way Linux is breaking out of extreme obscurity is if it starts coming pre-installed on commercially available and desirable hardware. the steam deck did more for Linux in a single product launch than the entire decade of combined efforts before that. before the deck i would have said it was simply never going to happen, but who knows. maybe it'll be up to eccentric billionaires that never went public with their companies to push the Linux future we all want.

[-] jaschen@lemm.ee 9 points 10 hours ago

Um... My grandma installed Windows 11 on her computer and then ran a simple script I gave her after. You guys are delusional.

[-] variants@possumpat.io 7 points 9 hours ago

oh damn that sucks, thats why you dont click suspicious links

[-] abbadon420@lemm.ee 7 points 10 hours ago

Was it a script to install your own crypto miner?

[-] spujb@lemmy.cafe 38 points 17 hours ago

would love to see some actual market research on this. sit down a sample of users, have them install then use some OSs. interview them on their experience. rather than yknow making up data

[-] mr_right@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 11 hours ago

well people dont actually install OSs

[-] nossaquesapao@lemmy.eco.br 4 points 14 hours ago

Even better if made with multiple ussr groups, including tech-savy and people who never installed an os before, as well as people already used to windows and linux.

[-] And009@reddthat.com 2 points 13 hours ago
[-] spujb@lemmy.cafe 4 points 13 hours ago

the only thing cooler than a meme with fake data is a meme with real data

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[-] Resonosity@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

I want to buy a Framework laptop soon. I have the option to choose which Linux distro is best for me and load that on.

Any suggestions?

[-] thawed_caveman@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago

Transitioning from Windows to Linux Mint was effortless for me, everything worked out of the box and i haven't typed a line of code yet. All i've had to to do is install Diodon to get the clipboard history feature.

However all i've done with it is internet and office work, basic stuff. No gaming, no video editing, no 3D animation or any such. I think if you have a mature and complicated creative workflow it's totally possible that you'll struggle to move to Linux

[-] horse_battery_staple@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

What are you intending to do with your laptop?

[-] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 1 points 8 hours ago

System76 has their own OS. You should start there and move on if you wanted to.

[-] horse_battery_staple@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

PopOS! Is not as user friendly as it seems to linux veterans.

[-] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 3 points 6 hours ago

Correct, horse battery staple! (Puns) I have had issues with it occasionally when I tried but it is a start.

[-] horse_battery_staple@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

I usually suggest linux mint with cinnamon desktop for casual users or Fedora with KDE Plasma for power users .

[-] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 1 points 5 hours ago

I still use Mint. Even though I'm having problems lately with mounting external drives. I mained Elementary OS for a while but something about it seemed....shallow.

[-] horse_battery_staple@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

External over USB or network?

[-] SloganLessons@lemmy.world 46 points 19 hours ago
[-] tsugu@slrpnk.net 8 points 19 hours ago

Like every linux community. Living in a bubble that doesn't exist.

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[-] renrenPDX@lemmy.world 4 points 13 hours ago

Unless you install Linux mint with multiple displays. Holy 1 sec flickering sideways displays Batman. I don’t remember what I did exactly to fix but probably single display until drivers are all installed.

[-] padge@lemmy.zip 1 points 10 hours ago

Omg please tell me when you do, I'm running Mint on my laptop but want to migrate my desktop over soon which has multiple displays

[-] renrenPDX@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago

I’m pretty sure that was the fix. Start the installation with a normal single monitor. Once the OS is installed, run update manager to download and install updates. This would include GPU drivers. My second monitor is in portrait mode which I think was the culprit.

[-] rumba@lemmy.zip 1 points 9 hours ago

This is 100% true, but the chart inverts when you have a problem you're trying to fix.

[-] Iamaquantummechanic@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago

Mint was super easy. I just had to scratch my head for two days trying to figure out why the keyboard didn't work after coming out of suspend. Had something to do with it being in a USB 3.0 port. Once I plugged it into a 2.0-port it worked.

[-] super_user_do@feddit.it 1 points 10 hours ago

The debate has never been so intense! It might not be the Year of the Linux Desktop, but that's certainly a great one

[-] Viper_NZ@lemmy.nz 32 points 23 hours ago

Install windows, run debloat powershell script. Done.

Microsoft give no shortage of things to complain about with needing to exaggerate.

[-] jaschen@lemm.ee 1 points 10 hours ago

Or just run Tiny11.

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[-] b34k@lemmy.world 5 points 16 hours ago

Where’s Arch if you don’t RTFM? (I mean we’ve got 2 windows install modes there… only fair)

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[-] synapse1278@lemmy.world 12 points 20 hours ago

Installing regular Windows 10/11 is definitely more than twice as painful than installing Debian 12.

Once, I was trying to install Windows 10 and wasted an entire day! The installation would systematically fail at the beginning of the installation with a BS error message that doesn't give any hint about what's going wrong. In the end it just didn't like USB3 as an installation media! I reflashed it to a USB2 and it worked, but OMG was it super slow ! It took literally hours to install !!!

Debian, even as a noobie, you'll go from flashing your ISO to a booted system within an hour. If you've done it once before, you will get it done in 20 minutes.

[-] lud@lemm.ee 3 points 16 hours ago

It works over USB 3.0, it sounds like you just have a broken or corrupt drive.

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[-] arc@lemm.ee 24 points 23 hours ago

I don't even know what this graph is even supposed to mean. Bitch about Windows all you like but the installation process is typically very simple.

[-] Agent641@lemmy.world 17 points 23 hours ago

There is no X axis so I'm going to assume it means potatoes per guinea pig

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[-] PieMePlenty@lemmy.world 39 points 1 day ago

Biased as fuck lol. Installing windows is not difficult. I did it first time at the age of 8 witn WIndows 98 and their newer installers are made so the general public can do it. And the bloat and spyware? Thats windows dude. Its not meant to be your OS, its meant to spy on your ass at the benefit of being familiar and (relative) easy to use. Anything you do to it post clean install is your own tinkering. Linux distros are great yall, but install difficulty is not a metric I would use to attack windows. Comparing between distros makes sense.

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[-] shadowedcross@sh.itjust.works 9 points 20 hours ago

Installing debloated windows is not difficult at all.

[-] leisesprecher@feddit.org 8 points 19 hours ago

And how difficult is it to keep it debloated? MS seems to be hellbent on pushing their crap into everyone's face.

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