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[-] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

I feel like we're in a movie where we are all bickering for petty reasons (namely wars and political polarisation), while in the background-- away from our sight and out of mind-- an abstract, cosmic horror is progressively happening. Preparing to kill us all.

[-] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago

You should watch Don't Look Up

[-] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I watched Don't Look Up long ago. But in our real life case, I imagine somehow a far more sinister yet indescribable horrific dark entity conspiring to kill humanity.

I haven't even read any of Lovecraft's work, and yet here I am imagining an indescribable horror lol.

I think now that the real horror is humanity committing a slow collective suicide. We're all trapped by our own ego that we neglect the greater problem.

[-] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 day ago

According to several other data sets, 2023 reached 1.5C too. Dramatic record low Arctic sea ice volume throughout the year, and current, including at north pole is ominous for north pole being ice free in next 2 summers.

https://ocean.dmi.dk/arctic/icethickness/thk.uk.php

[-] TheFriar@lemm.ee 31 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Congrats, everyone! We finally did it! And way ahead of schedule! Take that, scientists! They said we couldn’t do it before 2050. They warned us! They scolded us! But look at us now! Eat it, nerds!

sigh

This is fucking ridiculous.

[-] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I'm just sad I'll never have another snow filled winter living here

[-] Rinox@feddit.it 6 points 1 day ago

Don't despair! If we keep at it for long enough, we might destroy the AMOC (Atlantic Current), which might mean much lower temperature in Europe and North America, and much higher temperatures in the equator.

So you might not see snow in winter, but you'll probably get ice sheets in New York and Paris

Haven't Paris and new york have it hard enough?

[-] mke@programming.dev 21 points 2 days ago

Don't worry, cheaper solar panels, electric cars and entrepreneurs will save humanity. And by humanity I mean a specific share of the world's developed nations. Discourse on this frustrates me to an unhealthy degree.

If you promote techno-fetishism laden, borderline tech-bro driven or shitass bill gates financed media, please reply so I may wish upon your remaining bloodline an everlasting mildly inconvenient curse.

And if you like Kurzgesagt tech videos, please reply so I may respectfully call you a fucking donkey.

[-] hexabs@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

What's that about kurzgesagt?

I often found good citations/ research evidence linked to their claims (on climate change)

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[-] Tgo_up@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago

I'm frustrated by the discourse too but I'm not sure it's for the same reasons as you.

What frustrates me is we never seem to discuss goals and why we have those goals.

Is the goal to keep the average temperature of earth as low as possible for as long as possible?

Is it to minimize the impact and costs for humans?

What exactly are we aiming for, and why?

What is your frustration with the discourse?

[-] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago

Is the goal to keep the average temperature of earth as low as possible for as long as possible?

Human sustainability requires having those goals. Protecting oligarch wealth is within oligarch corruption power, and human prosperity is a sacrifice they are willing to make. Genocide of the uppity disenfranchised as a final solution seems natural today., as the path forward.

[-] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 20 points 2 days ago

And so far, what have we done?

Pretty much nothing. We've done a lot of pretending with "let's recycle plastics", which them just get dumped anyway because fuck you, that's why.

We're slowly slowly moving to electrical cars instead of pushing hard for bicycles and public transportation. Profits over anything else!

We've implemented.next day deliveries, because THAT is important. Fuck your winter

The US just choose a climate change denier who put a guy in charge of the EPA that can't stop talk about pushing businesses and economy and oil.

The world is lead by narcissistic psychopaths and everyone just lets them.

[-] superkret@feddit.org 11 points 2 days ago
[-] isles@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

I wanted to see that compared with global energy demand

[-] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago

Yeah, this graph shows it all. The previous looks impressive, this one looks depressing

[-] hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 27 points 2 days ago
[-] Monument@lemmy.sdf.org 60 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Big fucked if true.

I looked it up the other day. We crossed 1c in 2015/2016. News stories at the time talked about how 1.5 might happen as early as 2035 if we don’t get our climate act together.
Yikes.

[-] flames5123@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago

With Trump, he’s gonna help get to 2c by 2028…. Mega fucked.

[-] Boomkop3@reddthat.com 7 points 1 day ago

Any carbon backed crypto coin I can short?

[-] Gloomy@mander.xyz 1 points 1 day ago

I looked up a few articles from to 2015 and non of them spoke about 2035. Do you have a link maybe?

[-] Allonzee@lemmy.world 25 points 2 days ago

May our descendants never forgive us.

If there are any.

[-] murmelade@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 days ago

Don't blame me, I recycled! /s

[-] Allonzee@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Our mass cowardice, mine included, is our shame and culpability.

Like the German citizens who weren't Nazis but stayed quiet and didn't protest, only on a global scale. We should all be Greta, getting arrested doing the right thing, but again cowardice in the face of inhumanity is our sin.

[-] samus12345@lemm.ee 9 points 2 days ago
[-] Allonzee@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Just smart enough to figure out how to blow ourselves up, and still stupid enough to do it.

It always provides context for me in life to remember that, with great difficulty, humanity managed to do something I would think any sapient life form would consider a massive technological threshold/achievement: we figured out how to split the atom, releasing practically limitless energy.

...And Why did we suddenly rush to do so? To make big boomie boom rival monkey tribe.

"Our technology has exceeded our humanity" - Albert Einstein

[-] Tgo_up@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago

But what exactly do you want to change?

Lets say you had absolute power and could make whatever decisions for the human race you'd want.

I'm curious what you'd decide.

Im not saying there aren't things we can do better, but it's also not as easy as people make it out to be.

[-] murmelade@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 days ago
[-] Allonzee@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

Yep, even in the nations I often look up to from my gold plated shithole as the last models of humanity on Earth, all the while going back to the same question...

...and being left with the same sad answer, we as a species arent the cure, and we aren't both, we're just the disease.

[-] P1nkman@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago

Denmark has officially cancelled winter translated article. I don't like this timeline.

[-] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

So about when can we expect the next ice age?

We're in the ice age, it's supposed to be cold right now. So... Around 100,000 years after humanity either dies out or becomes subterranean.

[-] Pizza_Rat@lemmy.world 52 points 2 days ago

We did it guys 🥳

[-] x00z@lemmy.world 46 points 2 days ago

I see so many people thinking that this isn't going to be a problem for them because they are thinking of heaters and AC and also that they'll probably die while it's still livable.

But meanwhile they put kids on this world, who will call our generations the worst people to have ever existed.

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[-] HandBash@lemmy.world 22 points 2 days ago

Hottest year to date, so far.

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[-] msage@programming.dev 9 points 2 days ago

Bingo!!!

I had this on my 2024 bingo card.

God I hope I'm wrong about 2025 BOE.

[-] P1nkman@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

Yes, the line is going up. That's good, right? Shareholders keep telling me that the line must go up, and it looks like we're doing it! Good job, everyone.

[-] conicalscientist@lemmy.world 30 points 2 days ago

Grim milestone and barely a peep about it in popular discourse. Everyone needs to prepare personally for the consequences.

For one thing I'm not expecting food prices to level off for the rest of my life. Everything's just going to get more scarce and expensive. Is it possible common foods we enjoy now we may never have again at some point?

On a lighter note. I got a new winter jacket in 2019. Between covid and the rapid decline of cold winters I've barely worn it.

[-] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Conservatives successfully turned it into a "politically sensitive" topic. A weatherman can't even bring it up without getting angry calls, but I can feel them biting their tongue when discussing things like ocean heat content.

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