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Elon Musk has until the end of Wednesday to respond to demands from Brussels to remove graphic images and disinformation linked to the violence in Israel from his social network X — or face the full force of Europe's new social media rules.

Thierry Breton, the European Union commissioner who oversees the bloc's Digital Services Act (DSA) rules, wrote to the owner of X, formerly Twitter, to warn Musk of his obligations under the bloc's content rules.

If Musk fails to comply, the EU's rules state X could face fines of up to 6 percent of its revenue for potential wrongdoing. Under the regulations, social media companies are obliged to remove all forms of hate speech, incitement to violence and other gruesome images or propaganda that promote terrorist organizations.

Since Hamas launched its violent attacks on Israel on October 7, X has been flooded with images, videos and hashtags depicting — in graphic detail — how hundreds of Israelis have been murdered or kidnapped. Under X's own policies, such material should also be removed immediately.

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[-] maynarkh@feddit.nl 135 points 1 year ago

This is some "quality" reporting. Nowhere does the EU says to remove "graphic violent images", it's only asking for transparency in what gets removed and the removal of disinformation and calls to violence.

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[-] flossdaily@lemmy.world 69 points 1 year ago

Getting rid of misinformation is great.

Getting rid of accurately reported, gruesome images because of a government mandate flies in the face of the core principles of free speech. And it would cause real damage to the world.

Remember that it was only when the world actually saw images of the Nazi concentration camps that the world actually believed it. They'd heard about it for years, but it was largely ignored.

[-] qyron@sopuli.xyz 12 points 1 year ago

I respect that but the images presented to the public were selected to denounce and illustrate horrendous acts commited.

Here, I'd risk there is a very high risk/probability whatever may be leaked/posted is for pure shock value, with no intention to inform or contextualize.

[-] davysnavy@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Intent doesn't matter. People should be allowed to document and post crimes committed against humanity

[-] Jax@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The pictures are old and don't relate to what's happening currently.

Also, what do you think the differences between pre-meditated murder and manslaughter are? Intent absolutely matters.

[-] qyron@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 year ago

Intent does matter. It is so inportant it is even relevant in courts of law.

You want the images of the barbarism raging in Israel as we speak to be known to the world and that is a good thing. People need to see the acts being commited there.

Yet twitter is not, in any way, the platform for it, as those same images are very easily twisted out of context and thrown out in a fashion that will only serve to further entrench extreme positions and used for sheer shock value.

These are human lives being laid to waste, not a social media circus for browny points.

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[-] mojo@lemm.ee 52 points 1 year ago

Or what lol. Rich people are above the law.

[-] Spedwell@lemmy.world 53 points 1 year ago

I'm glad to see for once the fines are proportional to revenue, and not a fixed amount. 6% hurts.

[-] Garbanzo@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Will it hurt though? How are they going to collect the 6%? Do US based banks cooperate with the EU on this kind of thing? What happens if Musk just tells them to go fuck themselves?

[-] Dr_Cog@mander.xyz 10 points 1 year ago

I assume EU-based ISPs will be forced to ban access to the website for noncompliance, otherwise it would have literally no teeth whatsoever

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[-] kamenlady@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Sorry, completely off topic and not the place, but ...

your comment is perfectly complemented by your username above it.

[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 24 points 1 year ago

He's gonna fuck this up, too.

[-] Smacks@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

He won't, we all know he won't. He'd sooner get Twitter banned from Europe than actually try to improve his platform.

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[-] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

Is his goal to get the app banned from Europe?

I could see that being the business plan.

[-] tiziodcaio@feddit.it 12 points 1 year ago

It would be great! Europe will be better without x

[-] turbonewbe@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

X ? You mean X, formerly known as Twitter.

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[-] ano_ba_to@sopuli.xyz 17 points 1 year ago

A porn actress was made accountable for similar actions in less time and with more impact.

[-] skozzii@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago

It's almost as if billionaires are untouchable?

[-] Grant_M@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 year ago
[-] viking@infosec.pub 11 points 1 year ago

End of Wednesday in Brussels was ~7h ago. So, yes.

[-] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 year ago

So, what is the followup?

[-] stolid_agnostic@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 year ago

Is this the thing that finally makes Musk feel some pain? You can't wiggle out of this one, EU law is pretty tight on this stuff.

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[-] Wilibus@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Any phrase, request or threat in the from of "do X or be subject to the rules" is inherently flawed.

Why not skip the asking part and go straight to the enforcing the rules part because they're, you know; the fucking rules.

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[-] NekoKamiGuru@ttrpg.network 10 points 1 year ago

Purging the images off social media will make it easier to deny that the atrocities ever happened. Keep them there in all their gory uglyness , perhaps put a spoiler tag over them to prevent someone with a feeble constitution from accidentally stumbling onto them and accidentally being triggered , but leave them there as evidence of the evil that happened.

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[-] moitoi@feddit.de 8 points 1 year ago

The better would have been to ban Twitter. People and politics have to understand you can't talk with irrational people.

[-] Agent641@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Nationalize it.

Governments use twitter, a private, for-profit system, far too much for official communications. Governments should run their own communications systems that the public can interface with.

[-] Iwasondigg@lemmy.one 7 points 1 year ago

Poop emoji incoming

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