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[-] blackstrat@lemmy.fwgx.uk 1 points 5 hours ago

I moved from a Drll R710 with dual docket Xeons to a rack mount desktop case with a single Ryzen R5 5600G. I doubled the performance and halved the power consumption in one go. I do miss having idrac though. I need a KVM over IP solution but haven't stomached the cost yet. For how often I need it it's not an issue.

[-] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 8 hours ago

Look for a processor for the same socket that supports more RAM and make sure the Motherboard can handle it - maybe you're lucky and it's not a limit of that architecture.

If that won't work, breakup your self-hosting needs into multiple machines and add another second hand or cheap machine to the pile.

I've worked in designing computer systems to handle tons of data and requests and often the only reasonable solution is to break up the load and throw more machines at it (for example, when serving millions of requests on a website, just put a load balancer in front of it that assigns user sessions and associated requests to multiple machines, so the load balancer pretty much just routes request by user session whilst the heavy processing stuff is done by multiple machines in such a way the you can just expand the whole thing by adding more machines).

In a self-hosting scenario I suspect you'll have a lot of margin for expansion by splitting services into multiple hosts and using stuff like network shared drives in the background for shared data, before you have to fully upgrade a host machine because you hit that architecture's maximum memory.

Granted, if a single service whose load can't be broken down so that you can run it as a cluster, needs more memory than you can put in any of your machines, then you're stuck having to get a new machine, but even then by splitting services you can get a machine with a newer architecture that can handle more memory but is still cheap (such as a cheap mini-PC) and just move that memory-heavy service to it whilst leaving CPU intensive services in the old but more powerful machine.

[-] SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today 1 points 9 hours ago

The beauty of self hosting is most of it doesn't actually require that much compute power. Thus, it's a perfect use for hardware that is otherwise considered absolutely shit. That hardware would otherwise go in the trash. But use it to self host, and in most cases it's idle most of the time so it doesn't use much power anyway.

[-] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 1 points 9 hours ago

I just upgraded to a Xeon E5 v4 processor.

I think the max RAM on it is about 1.5 TiB per processor or something.

It's not new, but it's not that old either. Still cost me a pretty penny.

[-] BCsven@lemmy.ca 7 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

Does this count ARMv6 256MB RAM running OpenMediaVault...hmm I have to fix my clock. LOL

[-] Smokeydope@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

I run a local LLM on my gaming computer thats like a decade old now with an old 1070ti 8GB VRAM card. It does a good job running mistral small 22B at 3t/s which I think is pretty good. But any tech enthusiast into LLMs look at those numbers and probably wonder how I can stand such a slow token speed. I look at their multi card data center racks with 5x 4090s and wonder how the hell they can afford it.

[-] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 3 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

Not anymore. My main self-hosting server is an i7 5960x with 32GB of ECC RAM, RTX 4060, 1TB SATA SSD, and 6x6TB 7200RPM drives.

I did used to host some services on like a $5 or $10 a month VPS, and then eventually a $40 a month dedi, though.

[-] Emerald@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago

What do you use the 4060 for?

[-] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

I use it for Plex/Jellyfin, it's the cheapest NVIDIA GPU that supports both AV1 encoding and decoding, even though Plex doesn't support AV1 yet IIRC it's still more futureproof that way. I picked it up for like around $200 on a sale, it was well worth it IMO.

[-] ripcord@lemmy.world 3 points 21 hours ago

Yeah, not here either. I'm now at a point where I keep wanting to replace my last host thats limited to 16GB. All the others - at least the ones I care about RAM on - all support 64GB or more now.

[-] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 2 points 18 hours ago

64GB would be a nice amount of memory to have. I've been okay with 32GB so far thankfully.

[-] sith@lemmy.zip 18 points 1 day ago

Maybe a more reasonable question: Is there anyone here self-hosting on non-shit hardware? 😅

[-] pumpkinseedoil@mander.xyz 2 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

2 GB RAM rasp pi 4 :))

[-] Drathro@dormi.zone 6 points 1 day ago

Rehabilitated HP z440 workstation, checking in! Popped in a used $20 e5-2620v4 xeon CPU and 64gb of RAM and it sails for my use cases. TrueNAS as the base OS and a TalOS k8's cluster in a VM to handle apps. Old but gold.

[-] qaz@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I'm happy with my little N100

[-] BigDaddySlim@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

10400F running my NAS/Plex server and raspberry pi 5 running PiHole

[-] brlemworld@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

I have pi-hole on my Mac mini using docker but I stopped using it, it makes some things super laggy to load

[-] BigDaddySlim@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Interesting, I haven't had any issues with things loading with mine, maybe it's your adlists causing issues? Try disabling some, there might be false positives in there giving you issues

[-] brlemworld@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

I tried the default ones

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[-] rumba@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 day ago

7th gen intel, 96GB mismatched ram, 4 used 10TB HDD, one 12 with a broken sata connector that only works because it's sitting just right in a sled. A couple of 14's one M.2 and two sataSSD. It's running Unraid with 2 VM's (plex and Home Assistant), one of which has corrupted itself 3 times. A 1080 and a 2070.

I can get several streams off it at once, but not while it's running parity check and it can't handle 4k transcoding.

It's not horrible, but I couldn't do what I do now with less :)

[-] revv@lemmy.blahaj.zone 96 points 2 days ago

7 websites, Jellyfin for 6 people, Nextcloud, CRM for work, email server for 3 domains, NAS, and probably some stuff I've forgotten on a $4 computer from a tiny thrift store in BFE Kansas. I'd love to upgrade, but I'm always just filled with joy whenever I think of that little guy just chugging along.

[-] bigb@lemmy.world 41 points 2 days ago

Hell yeah, keep chugging little guy 🤘

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[-] Rooty@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Enterprise level hardware costs a lot, is noisy and needs a dedicated server room, old laptops cost nothing.

[-] pixelscript@lemm.ee 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I got a 1U rack server for free from a local business that was upgrading their entire fleet. Would've been e-waste otherwise, so they were happy to dump it off on me. I was excited to experiment with it.

Until I got it home and found out it was as loud as a vacuum cleaner with all those fans. Oh, god no...

I was living with my parents at the time, and they had a basement I could stick it in where its noise pollution was minimal. I mounted it up to a LackRack.

Since moving out to a 1 bedroom apartment, I haven't booted it. It's just a 70 pound coffee table now. :/

[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

My home server runs on an old desktop PC, bought at a discounter. But as we have bought several identical ones, we have both parts to upgrade them (RAM!) as well as organ donors for everything else.

[-] VoteNixon2016@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 1 day ago

Somehow Jellyfin works ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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[-] megopie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 59 points 2 days ago

Just down load more ram capacity. It the button right under the down load more ram button.

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[-] myersguy@lemmy.simpl.website 34 points 2 days ago

People in this thread have very interesting ideas of what "shit hardware" is

[-] lka1988@sh.itjust.works 26 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

My cluster ranges from 4th gen to 8th gen Intel stuff. 8th gen is the newest I've ever had (until I built a 5800X3D PC).

I've seen people claiming 9th gen is "ancient". Like...ok moneybags.

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[-] lnxtx@feddit.nl 24 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Maybe not shit, but exotic at that time, year 2012.
The first Raspberry Pi, model B 512 MB RAM, with an external 40 GB 3.5" HDD connected to USB 2.0.

It was running ARM Arch BTW.

Next, cheap, second hand mini desktop Asus Eee Box.
32 bit Intel Atom like N270, max. 1 GB RAM DDR2 I think.
Real metal under the plastic shell.
Could even run without active cooling (I broke a fan connector).

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[-] sudoer777@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I started my self hosting journey on a Dell all-in-one PC with 4 GB RAM, 500 GB hard drive, and Intel Pentium, running Proxmox, Nextcloud, and I think Home Assistant. I upgraded it eventually, now I'm on a build with Ryzen 3600, 32 GB RAM, 2 TB SSD, and 4x4 TB HDD

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[-] Pixel@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I had a old Acer SFF desktop machine (circa 2009) with an AMD Athlon II 435 X3 (equivalent to the Intel Core i3-560) with a 95W TDP, 4 GB of DDR2 RAM, and 2 1TB hard drives running in RAID 0 (both HDDs had over 30k hours by the time I put it in). The clunker consumed 50W at idle. I planned on running it into the ground so I could finally send it off to a computer recycler without guilt.

I thought it was nearing death anyways, since the power button only worked if the computer was flipped upside down. I have no idea why this was the case, the computer would keep running normally afterwards once turned right side up.

The thing would not die. I used it as a dummy machine to run one-off scripts I wrote, a seedbox that would seed new Linux ISOs as it was released (genuinely, it was RAID0 and I wouldn't have downloaded anything useful), a Tor Relay and at one point, a script to just endlessly download Linux ISOs overnight to measure bandwidth over the Chinanet backbone.

It was a terrible machine by 2023, but I found I used it the most because it was my playground for all the dumb things that I wouldn't subject my regular home production environments to. Finally recycled it last year, after 5 years of use, when it became apparent it wasn't going to die and far better USFF 1L Tiny PC machines (i5-6500T CPUs) were going on eBay for $60. The power usage and wasted heat of an ancient 95W TDP CPU just couldn't justify its continued operation.

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I used to selfhost on a core 2 duo thinkpad R60i. It had a broken fan so I had to hide it into a storage room otherwise it would wake up people from sleep during the night making weird noises. It was pretty damn slow. Even opening proxmox UI in the remotely took time. KrISS feed worked pretty well tho.

I have since upgraded to... well, nothing. The fan is KO now and the laptop won't boot. It's a shame because not having access to radicale is making my life more difficult than it should be. I use CalDAV from disroot.org but it would be nice to share a calendar with my family too.

[-] ebc@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago

Running a bunch of services here on a i3 PC I built for my wife back in 2010. I've since upgraded the RAM to 16GB, added as many hard drives as there are SATA ports on the mobo, re-bedded the heatsink, etc.

It's pretty much always ran on Debian, but all services are on Docker these days so the base distro doesn't matter as much as it used to.

I'd like to get a good backup solution going for it so I can actually use it for important data, but realistically I'm probably just going to replace it with a NAS at some point.

[-] N0x0n@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

A NAS is just a small desktop computer. If you have a motherboard/CPU/ram/Ethernet/case and a lot of SSDs/HDDs you are good to go.

Just don't bother to buy something marketed as NAS. It's expensive and less modular than any desktop PC.

Just my opinion.

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