this post was submitted on 20 Feb 2025
844 points (98.7% liked)

World News

44443 readers
4078 users here now

A community for discussing events around the World

Rules:

Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.


Lemmy World Partners

News !news@lemmy.world

Politics !politics@lemmy.world

World Politics !globalpolitics@lemmy.world


Recommendations

For Firefox users, there is media bias / propaganda / fact check plugin.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/media-bias-fact-check/

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 

Summary

Trump is pushing for softer language on Russia’s war in Ukraine, straining G7 unity.

Officials say the U.S. is blocking references to "Russian aggression" and prefers calling it the "Ukraine conflict."

This shift follows Trump's peace talks with Putin that excluded Ukraine's President Zelensky, whom Trump later called a "dictator."

The change in rhetoric contrasts with Biden-era support for Ukraine and threatens a unified G7 stance.

top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 296 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (18 children)

Do what they did to Russia, kick the US the fuck out and start calling it the G6. It was the G8 from 1997 to 2014, they can stand to lose another.

The US is literally trying to kickstart an economic depression in the US. Why the fuck would you want these guys in economics talks when they clearly understand FUCK ALL about economics? A US depression will fuck up the rest of the world's economics as well, and that's clearly the long-term goal.

[–] Nay@feddit.nl 74 points 1 month ago

If I recall correctly, it's about destabilizing the Dollar and making their (China and Russia's) financial system become the world standard...

It all comes down to money. It always does.

load more comments (17 replies)
[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 277 points 1 month ago (16 children)

American here: make it the G6. I am 100% serious. Trump is not your friend, and the rest of our fucking government is demonstrably inept in the extreme in terms of resisting this fascist takeover.

[–] PumpkinEscobar@lemmy.world 131 points 1 month ago

Amen. Also American. Cut America off. Do not stand for this stupidity. If American voters regain their minds in 2 or 4 years, we can all figure out how to move on. If not, America doesn't deserve your grace and goodwill when it's showing none. Ostracize us for the good of the world.

Fucking clown.

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 80 points 1 month ago (1 children)

honest to god embargo us. saction us. you will do more to help our people by cutting donald trump at the knees than anything else you could do. we need help making his cult realize what they've done is bad and i think the only way that happens is if food gets expensive

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] d00phy@lemmy.world 61 points 1 month ago

Another American here. Yeah, we’re not Europe’s friend anymore. I hate it, but it’s true. Dear Leader has made it abundantly clear that unless you are somehow enriching him and/or his billionaire cabinet, he’s not interested in being your friend. You can hold up as many past agreements and treaties his predecessors signed and it won’t mean jack shit to him. Putin is his daddy because Putin loves oligarchs, and wants to be an oligarch sooooooo bad.

[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago

It's going to end up that way whether EU does something now or not. He'll just pick up his ball and leave like he's done every time so far.

load more comments (12 replies)
[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 151 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Kick the US out. If our democracy survives Trump, you can always readmit us when we have a president who acts in good faith. Otherwise, this shit is only going to get worse...

[–] towelie@lemm.ee 86 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (5 children)

Unfortunately it's likely going to take more than just electing a nice guy for USA to earn back its status as a trustworthy ally. When the country can just go rogue every four years, making threats against allies and backing out of agreements — and half of the country is so nationalist that they applaud it — you can't really establish a basis of trust.

[–] Hugin@lemmy.world 51 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I'm a US citizen. Please kick us out. The more countries that take concrete action against us that actually hurt us the more likely congress and the voters are to stand up to Trump.

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago (2 children)

By allowing our politicians a seat at the table you're opening yourself up to more harm.

Isolate us, make the voting public feel the consequences of their actions. Respond to tariffs with tariffs on red states. Sanction administration official of the inevitable human rights abuses that are coming. Call out the lies of our Government openly and with evidence.

This isn't going to change if there are never any consequences for the people who're doing this as well as their supporters. Revoke the visas of our oligarchs, limit their travel, stop doing business with their companies. Create incentives for educated Americans to immigrate to healthier democracies and ban our social media companies before they finish poisoning your country as well.

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] krebssteven@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago

Precisely this. Once this trust has been lost and the 'G6' face a world where they cannot count on the US, geopolicies will change and the US will not be perceived trustworthy anytime soon. As it stands, it will be considered yet another global power with anti-democratic tendencies, policies that endanger world piece and disrupt the common pursuit for prosperity and is considered best kept in check.

load more comments (2 replies)
load more comments (2 replies)
[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 138 points 1 month ago

This just in, the known russian puppet, trump, is a russian puppet.

[–] SilentKettle@lemmy.wtf 83 points 4 weeks ago (16 children)

It's almost as if he works for Putin

[–] perestroika@lemm.ee 22 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (8 children)

Maybe he does.

Maybe Putin's colleagues found out something interesting about Trump back in the days, and made him an offer he could not refuse - "go and become King of America, we'll even help you a little, but you'll serve us".

Wild speculation, of course. But he definitely doesn't have national interest burdening his mind in any way or manner.

P.S. If I worked in the Secret Service, I would use my telescope to watch birds fly and tree leaves wobble. Even if there was a remote weapons station turning towards my client, or a wire guided object coming in - I would hardly notice until impact.

load more comments (8 replies)
load more comments (15 replies)
[–] Docus@lemmy.world 71 points 1 month ago (3 children)

G6 it is then. After NATOTWO is set up

[–] osaerisxero@kbin.melroy.org 39 points 1 month ago (7 children)
[–] Flamekebab@piefed.social 43 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 15 points 1 month ago

2 NATOs 1 Cup

load more comments (6 replies)
[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 24 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Maybe since it's mostly just the northeast Atlantic now, it should be NEATO.

load more comments (2 replies)
load more comments (1 replies)
[–] ThanksObama@sh.itjust.works 62 points 1 month ago (2 children)
load more comments (2 replies)
[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 56 points 1 month ago (20 children)

But I couldn't vote for Harris because that was a vote for genocide.

[–] merdaverse@lemmy.world 26 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Coming from a country with ranked voting and more than 2 parties, this looks so ridiculous. It's like the USA electoral system is designed to make people bicker amongst themselves about who is the lesser evil, while oligarchs take control.

load more comments (4 replies)
[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago

Yeah that was some really really stupid shit people were saying.

[–] blakenong 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

To be fair, most Americans do fall for things pretty easily when all they have to do is literally nothing

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (17 replies)
[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 53 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Kick us out, Trump is not in the G7 to do anything but fuck it up. Being a self interested stakeholder is normal but he's not self interested. He is clearly under Putin's influence.

[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 42 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] Sturgist@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 month ago

I love it when you talk dirty

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] bruhssa@lemmy.world 40 points 4 weeks ago (11 children)

I'd love to ask all of the MAGA heads to just question themselves this: Why go through all of this just to help Putin. Some fucked up shit must go on that Trump risks all of this just for Putin.

load more comments (11 replies)
[–] DicJacobus@lemmy.world 40 points 4 weeks ago (20 children)

Blow it apart. America doesn't belong with its former Allies.

Its clear that America has no interest in being apart of the free world, they checked out.

Now fuck off and go destroy yourselves in a frenzy over transgender bathroom doors and eggs. The rest of us still have lives to live and futures to protect.

load more comments (20 replies)
[–] jve@lemmy.world 38 points 1 month ago

Got me feelin’ so fly, like a G6

[–] kokesh@lemmy.world 35 points 1 month ago (11 children)

Someone take that orange fuck out, please.

[–] DontTreadOnBigfoot@lemmy.world 30 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Biggest disappointment in the last year was that dufus missing his big fat head from only 150yds.

[–] BassTurd@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago

2". That's all we needed. Even small hands Trump knows what two inches looks like, it's basically nothing. So damn close.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Will nobody rid us of this turbulent golfer?

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (9 replies)
[–] goofus@lemmy.today 33 points 1 month ago

Russia Loving Republicans. Trump is a Russian asset. Treat the US government like an enemy.

[–] DougHolland@lemmy.world 30 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The fuck is G7 anyway, but the face of global capitalism?

Just doublechecking my premises, there's this from Investopedia:

The Group of Seven is an intergovernmental organization made up of the world's largest developed economies: France, Germany, Italy, Japan, the United States, the United Kingdom, and Canada. Government leaders of these countries meet periodically to address international economic and monetary issues, with each member taking over the presidency on a rotating basis...

Yeah, fuck 'em, but all is forgiven if G7 has the balls to expel America.

[–] boonhet@lemm.ee 23 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (12 children)

G8 expelled Russia for the original Ukrainian invasion in 2014. If need be, I suppose they can become G6. Or honestly, in this day and age, there are many more nations whose opinions should be considered. G7 is pretty eurocentric and I say this as an European (though not a citizen of any of the 7)

load more comments (12 replies)
[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Let Trump and Putin have a G1.5. Do it. Make him look like a Russian stooge.

[–] MonsterMonster@lemmy.world 27 points 1 month ago

What do you mean "look like"?

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 19 points 4 weeks ago

They should kick him out when he shows up for that threat

load more comments
view more: next ›