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Enshittification

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What is enshittification?

The phenomenon of online platforms gradually degrading the quality of their services, often by promoting advertisements and sponsored content, in order to increase profits. (Cory Doctorow, 2022, extracted from Wikitionary) source

The lifecycle of Big Internet

We discuss how predatory big tech platforms live and die by luring people in and then decaying for profit.

Embrace, extend and extinguish

We also discuss how naturally open technologies like the Fediverse can be susceptible to corporate takeovers, rugpulls and subsequent enshittification.

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[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 168 points 1 month ago (6 children)
[–] qupada@fedia.io 46 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I don't want to get into a text editor war - because these are all good options - but it's definitely also worth giving the "Kate" editor from KDE a go, it's available as a native Windows app from the MS store and everything:

https://apps.microsoft.com/detail/9NWMW7BB59HW

I personally find it considerably nicer to use than Notepad++, and it means I don't have to give up 25 years of muscle memory for keyboard shortcuts when I have to switch to a windows machine.

Also some crazy how, it uses less RAM than Notepad‽ (With no files open, 61 vs 71MB) Not sure what Microsoft are up to, but it's definitely something strange.

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 29 points 1 month ago

To each their own for sure, but the takeaway here is that there are definitely better notepads than Notepad by now, especially since having AI baked into your plain text editor isn't something that anyone ever asked for.

At this rate you may a well use a slab of some granite and a chisel, or maybe even vim.

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[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] bizarroland@fedia.io 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

In my opinion, Sublime Text is a little bit better for coding based applications, specifically with like HTML and CSS, even though Notepad++ is great for it too, but just for overall drag and drop replace, works with everything, wonderful, free and open source software, it is very, very difficult to beat Notepad++.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago (9 children)

Fair, I just don't like how cluttered Notepad++ feels.

[–] bizarroland@fedia.io 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I've never heard of notepad++ being referred to as cluttered before. It's fairly spartan in my opinion.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

Cluttered compared to Notepad or Sublime Text.

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[–] arotrios@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

I think you dropped this on the way in, king:

https://notepad-plus-plus.org/

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[–] masterspace@lemmy.ca 95 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (10 children)

This is literally not an example of enshittification and the article is intentionally misleading.

First of all, all of the original Notepad functions are unchanged and still free.

Literally nothing got shittier.

Which is why describing Notepad as getting a paywall is quite frankly flat out disingenuous.

They are adding new, cloud running, AI features to Notepad that are locked behind a paywall. You can not like that for whatever reason, but that's not an example of enshittification. That's an example of them charging for new functionality.

[–] Venator@lemmy.nz 29 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The popup is shittier, also takes a lot longer to open than it used to, but yeah, the article is definitely misleading clickbait.

[–] zipzoopaboop@lemmynsfw.com 8 points 1 month ago

It's sensationalist

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 23 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That's like how enshittification starts, "oh we're just going to paywall these features, don't worry all the old ones will be free!" And then the old parts start getting replaced by "New and improved!" Parts that also somehow need to be on the cloud and paywalled.

[–] masterspace@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The old parts are literally just a basic wrapper around the most basic WPF text control. Notepad is literally the kind of app used as a tutorial for intro to coding that you can crank out in half a day.

There is no risk of it becoming proprietary or locked behind paywalls.

This is a junk, click bait, article designed to drive up hysteria cause it gets engagement. Supporting trash misinformation outlets like this is far more corrosive then adding new paid features to an existing application.

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 month ago (6 children)

Why the hell would I need cloud AI functionality to edit basic txt files???????????

[–] msage@programming.dev 6 points 1 month ago

VCs put a lot of money into AI, and they won't hesitate to kill you to make sure they get their money back.

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[–] JeremyHuntQW12@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago

But the prompt to sign in is the default.

The only way to get rid of it is through Settings.

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[–] DrSleepless@lemmy.world 35 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] jared@mander.xyz 9 points 1 month ago
[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago (7 children)

That just raises the next question of which text editor to use

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Just use your DE's default default. Like Kate in KDE.

NotepadQQ if you like Notepad++

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I was expecting an eMacs vs vi flame war but somehow you’ve managed to piss off both camps by using a GUI. Well done.

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[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 29 points 1 month ago

Are you actually joking

[–] mrcleanup@lemmy.world 26 points 1 month ago (17 children)

I switched to Linux recently, you can too. It's easy and works well now. No more of this bullshit from Microsoft.

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[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 25 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It boggles the mind the things MS does to their OS without any apparent shame.

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[–] Muaddib@sopuli.xyz 25 points 1 month ago

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[–] PantanoPete@lemmy.zip 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I use linux but I just checked on my windows 11 vm, the paywall is for AI copilot stuff not the core functionality of the app at all.

[–] Obi@sopuli.xyz 15 points 1 month ago

Wow what an overdramatic headline then, I mean at this level it's not even clickbait it's straight up lies.

[–] lemmydividebyzero@reddthat.com 17 points 1 month ago

Can't wait for the task manager to get forced AI support that terminates processes automatically, so that they can paywall it, too...

[–] x00z@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)
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[–] fluxcap@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago

I have been a Notepad ++ user for years. I sometimes forget that the Microsoft Notepad even exists.

[–] RaoulDook@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago

LOL that's like peak enshittification right there.

Next step: add IA to minesweeper and solitaire under a paywall

[–] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] leftzero@lemmynsfw.com 7 points 1 month ago

Which have absolutely no place in notepad, and no one asked for.

[–] ProgrammingSocks@pawb.social 11 points 1 month ago

Fuck this article. Title is insanely misleading. The paywall is for 1 specific AI feature, not the Notepad program itself.

[–] SuperSpruce@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 month ago

This is why they got rid of WordPad.

And no, I don't want AI crap in my basic note-taking app.

[–] dimjim@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 month ago

The first thing I do when setting up new Windows environments (for work) is to install Notepad++. Fuck Microsoft.

[–] Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Will you need a subscription to turn-off the computer now?

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[–] LemUrun@pawb.social 8 points 1 month ago

Fuck Microsoft. Why bringing Notepad to Microsoft 365 service in the first place? OneNote isn't good?

[–] yagurlreese@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

who asked for this, I get the article sucks. but like.... it's just supposed to be a simple text editor and I think I'm right to worry about what will happen to the features that don't make the money. the people saying.. just don't pay for it if you don't wanna use it.. didn't change the fact that this is just additional bloat added to something that doesn't even need it....

they literally already have vscode, which is fantastic.. why not just push that a little harder and add features like these over there and not into flipping notepad xD

the tabbing functionality is a godsend and requested. this just feels weird imo

[–] lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

And this is why Windows is always the laughing stock. Use Notepad++ for Windows, or literally anything you want (including a fork of N++ called "Notepad qq") on Linux.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The article says it's to enable some AI rewrite shit. So basically if you want normal functionality, everything is normal. If you want something they are investing billions of dollars into for reasons unknown to modify your text, you have to pay them.

It actually sounds reasonable. Want this expensive shit? Pay for it. No? Don't.

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