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[–] Zink@programming.dev 50 points 4 days ago (1 children)

US citizen here. I have become such a huge fan of France.

[–] ABetterTomorrow@lemm.ee 12 points 4 days ago

Same. Also once you know and understand France’s history and military…. You just don’t fuck with them.

[–] boke@sh.itjust.works 251 points 6 days ago (20 children)

This isn’t a show of force, it’s a demonstration for Canada who is planning to buy a number of these submarines from France.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 52 points 5 days ago

Regardless, it's presence makes a statement that Canada is not alone.

Though I'd be cool if it was stationed at Miquelon for a few months.

[–] Evkob@lemmy.ca 93 points 6 days ago (1 children)

You're right, thanks for adding context. I'm immediately suspicious when a picture is posted with no accompanying news article, and my search wasn't turning up any articles, only social media links.

Here's a French article about it.

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[–] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 23 points 5 days ago (1 children)

They don't need attack subs. They need boomer subs. At this point, Canada needs a nuclear deterrent. And I say that as an American who would be in the cross hairs of said nuclear deterrent. Canada should contract with the French for protection under their umbrella until they can build some of their own. The lesson of Ukraine should be that nukes protect small nations from fascist larger ones. Canada could easily end up like Ukraine. It's not like fascists can't find a casus belli. Putin was "restoring Russian glory" or some such. Trump would be "finishing the American Revolution" or some other bullshit.

Please, Canada, from a friend of yours to the south, do not take this threat lightly. No one is going to be able to save you if the US decides to invade. The same oceans that protect you will prevent your rescue. The only hope Canada will ever have of being able to militarily protect its borders from the US is a credible nuclear deterrent.

Just please, don't harden your hearts while you build these weapons of destruction. Don't close your doors to refugees from the US. As someone who is on the regime's enemies list, hopping across the Canadian border and begging for asylum is the last chance I might have if things really go bad.

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[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 46 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Australia watching on with regret.

[–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 15 points 5 days ago

right?! gawwwwwwd we’re so fucking captured

[–] Lodespawn@aussie.zone 24 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Morrison is such a dickhead.

[–] Gronk@aussie.zone 22 points 6 days ago (5 children)

Morrison knew what he was doing, the sub deal was to poison the chalice before Labor gained the majority.

Unfortunately for the walking sack of salmonella and shitty curry, his wrangler (Murdoch) managed to sway the election enough to get the LNP back in power.

I have actually met Morrison in person once (friends of friends of friends) and he is a fucking moron but JFC he's at least a brain cell or two ahead of Dutton

[–] Lodespawn@aussie.zone 11 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I dunno .. Dutton seems smarter, but more evil. Morrison just seems like a brainwashed idiot who's failed upwards. I don't know how anyone looks at the screaming void of evil that is Dutton and thinks "yeah that thing has my best interests at heart .. or a heart"

[–] Gronk@aussie.zone 10 points 5 days ago

They're just two different flavours of evil, Morrison is a happy clapper pentecostalist "God favours the rich" evil and Dutton is an ex-corrupt cop who wants authoritarianism under his rule evil.

They both don't have the critical thinking to realise the damage they do or why men like them shouldn't hold positions of power, but Dutton following right out of Trumps playbook despite international backlash is a pretty good case for dumb-as-fuck syndrome.

But I agree, it's absurd that we have these stooges running for parliament I don't know how we got here..

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[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 5 days ago

I mean, they're not mutually exclusive. Nobody was about to start openly threatening the Americans, but having French forces around and mulling over defence deals with France sends a signal.

We don't know what Macron and Trudeau talked about, but accelerating things like this in light of the new reality could well have been part of it.

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[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 65 points 5 days ago

Never have I been more pleased to see a foreign navies nuclear attack sub in my nations waters.

(odd times)

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 26 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Current timeline feels like one alternative Red Alert timeline, where alongside of Hitler, Stalin also got erased from history, and now Russia and the US have turned fascistic.

[–] Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Red Alert has predicted the future, the presedency of the US is controlled by a russian

[–] TrippaSnippa@lemm.ee 3 points 4 days ago

And Putin didn't even need Yuri to do it

[–] Zerberr@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 days ago

There were some people wishing that stalin would join forces with hitler to take over the world and not separating shortly after.

We are in the echo of that timeline.

[–] ShakingMyCane@lemmy.ca 151 points 6 days ago (6 children)

France manages to get a sub to us before the UK even deigns to comment. That says it all. Merci beacoup!

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[–] CircaV@lemmy.ca 105 points 6 days ago (2 children)

JT was just in France as one of his last acts as PM. Mere days later this bad boy shows up in a Halifax harbour. πŸ€”πŸ€”πŸ€” Merci a la belle France πŸ‡«πŸ‡·πŸ€πŸ‡¨πŸ‡¦

[–] Isaac@waterloolemmy.ca 21 points 5 days ago

Vive la France!

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[–] myersguy@lemmy.simpl.website 123 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] Evkob@lemmy.ca 124 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (11 children)

Hijacking the top comment to let people know this isn't in response to any American threats, this is Naval Group, a French naval defense company, showing off their submarine because Canada is looking to spend 60 billion on twelve submarines. The plans for this purchase were publicly announced on July 10, 2024.

Here's a French news article about the submarine, seeing as I couldn't seem to find any sources in English.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 43 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I'll take both reasons as canon, thank you very much

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[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 17 points 6 days ago

Naval Group, a French naval defense company

Ah shit, that's the same company Australia had a deal with to buy diesel subs, before our fuckwit former PM reneged on the deal to create AUKUS and buy American nuclear subs.

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[–] Grass@sh.itjust.works 61 points 6 days ago

nuclear subs always give me gundam carrier ship vibes

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 4 days ago

Fuck yes, France.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Well this year is going just smoothly.

Better get that bug-out bag ready. Remember iodine tablets.

[–] Typotyper@sh.itjust.works 79 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Could have imagined this happening as little as 3 years ago.

An ally sending a nuclear deterrent into our waters as a message/warning to the US. This normally happens to countries like Iran or North Korea

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 45 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Hey. Guess what? At the moment, we're the bad guys...

[–] XenGi@feddit.org 28 points 6 days ago (7 children)

At the moment? When was there ever a time the US weren't the bad guys?

[–] YtA4QCam2A9j7EfTgHrH@infosec.pub 29 points 6 days ago (14 children)

Briefly the us was the good guys when we killed a bunch of slavers and then when we killed a bunch of fascists. Those were exceptions to the rule though.

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[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 21 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (7 children)

To be accurate, this is a nuclear propelled attack submarine. It does not carry nuclear warheads and is not what we normally call a "nuclear deterrent".

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[–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 15 points 6 days ago

Still hasn’t happened. This was a sales pitch for a Canadian defence contract.

[–] DontMakeMoreBabies@lemm.ee 8 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I mean if Canada/France/the World want to get rid of him, I'm not gonna bat an eye? Just saying.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 50 points 6 days ago (6 children)

Would a french submarine wear its hat like this:

or like this:

[–] gibmiser@lemmy.world 18 points 6 days ago

Asking the real questions

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[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 48 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Let's go! France is here to protect Canada!

[–] Typotyper@sh.itjust.works 21 points 6 days ago

Na, they’re just finishing the 7years war-round 2

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[–] TheAlbatross@lemmy.blahaj.zone 30 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (8 children)

The scale of these things is always fascinating. They're always much larger than I think they are.

For reference, I think that's a Suffren class, making it just shy of 100m, or a tad longer than a football field for my fellow Americans.

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[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 19 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Important note: The "Nuclear" in "Nuclear attack submarine" means that it is powered by a nuclear reactor. It does not refer to its armament. An "attack" submarine means it is designed to attack ships and other submarines and these are typically not capable of carrying and launching ICBMs. Nuclear-armed deterrent submarines are called Ballistic Missile Submarines.

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[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

Time for Germany to upgrade and build more submarines.

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