Fediverse

The linux experiment is great

Youtube was known for hosting pirated content in the early days to attract people

This is what has stopped me from switching to Peertube.

Nebula is pretty good, though alot of it just doesn't interest me. I find it's more affordable and feel the handful of creators I follow there are worth the cost.

As much as I want to switch away from YouTube, it's my main source of entertainment and I don't see the creators I follow switching to any other platforms anytime soon.

makertube has some good vids.

There is, but it's still inferior to YouTube

If you've got the storage and bandwith, there's nothing stopping you from "mirroring" your favorite content creator's videos.

I'm old enough to remember a time before YouTube. When YouTube started, it wasn't about making money. There were no ads. No subscriptions. No sponsors. In the early days of YouTube it was just backyard videos. But it didn't take long for the connect to start getting good because it was the first of its kind, and everyone started using it. The problem now is, to convince people to use something else that, essentially does the same thing, but doesn't make people money. Good luck with that.

Money corrupted YouTube. And now, the idea that people can be "content creators" for a living means that there will likely never be a mainstream, ad free, subscription free video platform, where people just make videos in their spare time. Peer tube is cool, but your not going to see high quality, curated content like you get on YouTube. An I think that's probably a good thing.

I know of at least one. The channel is called The Linux Experiment.

@thelinuxexperiment_channel@tilvids.com

In all honesty I don’t understand how PeerTube is supposed to scale with users once it gets content. Hosting, transcoding and streaming video is super expensive. There’s also a matter of making money from videos and without financial incentive it’ll be hard to compete with commercial solutions (in a capitalist hellholes that most of us live in). Community funding can keep up with hosting text but can barely keep up with hosting pictures, let alone something more, unless you’re an internet archive or something.

People who are on Nebula already made it in Youtube and they’re so big that they just want to make more money. They provide nice service for the money but I don’t think they will come support your revolution for free.

I've found better stuff by asking around for good channels, or learning that folks I follow have made a peertube channel, than I have by trying to use the interface. The discovery isn't especially good.

There are only a couple decent channels I've watched but I get the honest impression there are more, they're just burried in stuff. Also depends what you're looking for. There are far more Foss youtubers who mirror over there and make decently high quality stuff than is available for a a lot of other genres of video

There definitely isn't much, but I think there's potentially more than is immediately obvious

I have some favorites

• https://makertube.net/accounts/michellemay about stichong, sewing etc

• https://subscribeto.me/accounts/gbryant technology and videogames

• https://video.canadiancivil.com/accounts/shifter active mobility and biking

No good content??? My man!!! Have you not heard of Nicole??? The fediverse chick!!! Watch as she mindlessly smokes a cigerette as she stares blankly at her monitor.

Or you could try Veronica, as she uploads several videos every minute. All about Linux. Nobody knows how she does it....

Do some searching. There are lots of great channels. I've posted them the last 3 or 4 times this question was asked.

without ad revenue or subscription revenue I don’t know how quality content can come to PeerTube

AdSense makes up a relatively small portion of revenue for most creators. Their profit comes much more from:

• Sponsor spots
• Direct contributions
• Merch/personal products

Am I allowed to throw my hat in the ring? I'm definitely No expert and I'm constantly learning, but I have vods of my live streams, gaming and tech, and I'm running Fireside Fedi a show about talking with different folks around the Fediverse. Let me know if I can post the link. I don't want to self promote of that's not what folks are looking for here.

Aldo I would say that we're still very early in the Fediverse life cycle. Majority of these folks aren't paid or are a shoestring budget and solo with tiny teams. So if we want to see this experiment survive we have to do more than what we've done in the past.

Talk to content creators you enjoy. Let them know you'd like to see their content on the Fediverse. Especially if you're a patreon member. Create content yourself. The Fediverse will succeed or fail based on our actions.

The internet wasn't born in a day and a LOT of projects failed, because everyone took the easy centralized way. This time we have to fight for it to remove their claws.

I haven’t checked it out yet, but the same could be said about the early days of YouTube. Professional cameras weren’t that common for the first years of it.

Yes but good luck finding it.

When I look at the trending videos on YouTube, it makes me want to become a hermit and have no contact with society, the videos are so bad. I think the money side of YouTube has totally corrupted it.

As a PeerTube creator, I make videos as a way to teach/inform/entertain, not to make money. One way to make PeerTube work is to find a way to fund the hosts/instances that transcode and store the video files.

It would be interesting to create a crypto coin and have PeerTube users, both creators and viewers, to buy a small amount of the coin (a few dollars worth) when they register, then each video that they watch costs a small fraction of a coin paid to the instance hosting the video, and the viewer could add a tip to the creator if they liked the video. The amount paid to the instance might be an approximation of the cost to host the video. Accumulating the coin might be a game not an income source for the creators, but there might be enough money to fund the instances with this scheme.

There certainly is value in quality video that people are willing to pay for. It would be nice to find an alternative to advertising based video.

Another side of video that YouTube is not doing a good job at is creating community. The comment section is hard to follow, impossible to search, and it is transient, as new videos are created, comments on old videos disappear. I don't know how to do it, but creating a forum or a lemmy group for each creator or each video interest group with multiple creators involved would be extremely powerful.

Take a look at the pinned post at !peertube@lemmy.wtf and also check out PeerTube.wtf/home for a list as well.

There’s plenty of channels to follow, but obviously not the same amount of content like on YouTube.

without ad revenue or subscription revenue I don’t know how quality content can come to PeerTube.

I saw a video where a YouTube channel broke down their income (I'll try and find it but there are probably similar ones out there) and the amount coming directly from ads was quite small. Other sources of money include:

• Sponsorship
• YouTube's built in subscription
• External subscriptions like Patreon
• Merchandise
• Physical media deals

Like Spotify, the cut from streaming isn't great but those on it can leverage their profile in other ways.

The Fediverse still has a bit of a problem with monetisation but Ghost is working on joining and that is the equivalent of Substack with different subscription levels and I think most Fediverse services could do something similar. So Peertube could build in a "subscribe" button so people who enjoy your content could sign up to throw you a buck a month. Obviously a similar system could be added to the instance so you could donate to them, as hosting video is expensive.

I do wonder if we need a FediPay/PayFed service that other services could just plug in, so you'd have a central account across your Fediverse identities - subscribing on Pixelfed could get you subscriber exclusive Peertube content.

Yeah that's pretty much my take.

It sucks that content creators are fixated on advertising revenue or whatever they get from subscriptions.

Time Team is doing really well with patreon by offering exclusive content there.

I personally am not really sure that the peer to peer bandwidth model for peertube is the right way to go. I'm also certain that peertube is a terrible name.

I think something federated with channels providing their own bandwidth but discoverable from other instances might be the way to go.

There's a couple youtubers that mirror their content on PeerTube. The Giddy Stitcher for example uploads to Makertube.net

Space Quest Historian, for adventure games https://spectra.video/c/spacequesthistorian/videos

I haven't looked around in five years, but there was some interesting tech tinkering stuff on that diode instance. I'm assume people reuploading their own YouTube channels doesn't count, but there were some quality ones there even back then.

There's some good channels on TILVids and Kolektiva.media, and if you're looking for something specific, Sepiasearch is able to search across all peertube instances.