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They sell things that come in cups, or with napkins. Lots of people cycle/run/walk here instead of driving, seems pretty stupid.

Taking away the bins doesn't mean you don't produce rubbish....

Edit: I think there is still a bin IN the cafe, but most people eat/drink outside. Lots of people asking staff where the bins are. Still hypocritical I think though? (And still mildly infuriating to remove well used bins!)

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[–] TheDeadlySquid@lemm.ee 1 points 11 minutes ago

Pack in, Pack out.

[–] Pondis@lemmy.world 10 points 1 hour ago

Sounds to me like they just dont want to empty the bins any more. I suspect after a few months of picking rubbish off the floor, the bins will be back.

Or not and everyone will complain and stop going.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 23 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

The only way this will work is if humans behave in ways that no human has ever humaned

[–] pishadoot@sh.itjust.works 1 points 20 minutes ago

There are countries where this is culturally how litter is managed. Japan is a fully developed example - bins are hard to come by, everyone brings their trash with them.

It can be done.

[–] tiredofsametab@fedia.io 9 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

We survive that way in Japan with almost no bins. Of course the odd person litters, but most don't; if we can pack it in, we can pack it out. Now, if there were no bin inside the cafe, that would be idiotic.

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 5 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I do have the impression that Japanese people have a much stronger "social responsibility" with public stuff compared to most westerners.

[–] AAA@feddit.org 1 points 16 minutes ago

*all westerners

Really. Japanese society has a lot of issues on its own, but there's also a lot to learn from them.

[–] gnygnygny@lemm.ee 3 points 1 hour ago

Geniuses have no understanding of how some people can be dirty.

[–] Syun@retrolemmy.com 9 points 3 hours ago

The places with the fewest places to deposit one's trash are always the ones with the most litter. Always.

If someone wants another person to adapt a behavior, from a purely practical standpoint, that person must make the other person's job easier or it will simply not work to get them to adapt. If this wasn't a forest (such as it is, it being the UK), the only proper thing to do would be to dump as much trash there as possible while demanding the bins back until they get the message and cave in. I could write a whole book here about how the packaging industry paid lobbyists and PR firms to put the blame on consumers for the useless crap they make existing in the first place, and shaming them into keeping it out of sight and thus out of mind. I won't. But it's a tale vile enough that it convinced me that there's a time and a place for littering as protest. The woods aren't the place.

Besides, there ARE receptacles that are critter resistant. This is an absolute cop out, and seeing how landscaped the area is, a couple of bins would hardly scar the landscape. This is pure crap. I looked the place up, and it's NOT the kind of place where you deny people trash receptacles, nor is it the kind of place you can credibly base your argument on "we don't want animals to get used to people". Good lord, what a bunch of idiocy.

"To support our commitment to reducing the number of covid cases, we have elected to discontinue counting them. We kindly ask all infected to kindly die at home."

[–] blind3rdeye@lemm.ee 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I'm on board with this. Don't bring rubbish into woodland areas; and if you do bring it - take it back with you.

I'm sure the bins were very convenient - but its a convenience that only helps you leave trash in the woodland for someone else to collect. And as others have pointed out, the rubbish can cause problems even if it is all put in the bin.

So yeah, I can see that it is mildly frustrating - but I don't think 'take your rubbish home' is too much of an ask.

[–] dickalan@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, I agree but if you know anything about human behavior, you would realize all this paragraph you wrote was for nothing because people are going to do what people do

[–] blind3rdeye@lemm.ee 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I've just come back from a holiday which involved lots of hiking in mountains and woodlands. It's rare to see bins out there, and yet somehow the places are clean. But please tell me more about human behaviour. Getting insulted by strangers on the internet is so fun.

[–] spicy_mango@lemmy.world 2 points 12 minutes ago

Relax buddy

[–] LuckyPierre@lemm.ee 17 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

One problem with outside bins is that the wildlife is naturally drawn to them and the contents can be damaging to them as well as desensitising animals to people, plus things like squirrels and birds will pull rubbish out of the bins and spread it around.

[–] x00z@lemmy.world 5 points 3 hours ago

You can have wildlife proof bins.

[–] crapwittyname@lemm.ee 20 points 5 hours ago

Why not put that on the sign then instead of some vague, unrelated bollocks that doesn't justify the removal? If that's the case then I feel the wording on the sign is borderline dishonest.

[–] jimbel@lemm.ee 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Just take your own rubbish home

[–] ToxicWaste@lemm.ee 11 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

there should be a rule that, if you sell stuff, which produces rubbis - you have to provide enough bins for said trash.

[–] spicy_mango@lemmy.world 1 points 10 minutes ago

Yes, if they sell crisps, or coffee in a disposable cup, but don't give you somewhere to dispose of the packet/cup, that's a little unfair, but ultimately not that much of a burden, and if it is, don't buy the crisps, buy something else e.g. a sandwich that comes on a plate with no wrapper.

They should advertise at point of sale that there are no bins and you have to take your rubbish with you.

[–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 1 points 44 minutes ago

I think there's a lot of franchised businesses that do use this philosophy.

[–] MrsDoyle@sh.itjust.works 7 points 5 hours ago

I fully support the choice to remove the bins. I visited a beauty spot in Scotland recently that has a coffee van in the carpark. The young couple I took there went to add their empty cups to the already overflowing bin, and were baffled when I insisted they take them to the car, which was ten steps away. "But there's a bin!" Yes you numpties, and the wind is already spreading its contents everywhere. Be part of the solution, not the problem.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 9 points 5 hours ago

That's not how human behavior works...

Someone thinks they're very clever and they aren't.

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