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“This is a GREAT time to move your COMPANY into the United States of America, like Apple, and so many others, in record numbers, are doing,” Trump posted on his Truth Social platform, promising “ZERO TARIFFS and “no environmental delays.”

https://archive.ph/CucF8

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[–] ShellMonkey@lemmy.socdojo.com 141 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Sure, just let me pick up a whole production plant and import a few thousand workers already trained on my processes. Should be able to get that done by this weekend.

[–] legion02@lemmy.world 77 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Also all the material I need I need to build that production plant is under a 104% tariff. NBD.

[–] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 17 points 1 week ago (2 children)

And if everyone is moving to the USA at the same time, the existing supply lines get overburdened immediately, causing prices of all raw materials to explode until new supply can be developed.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 week ago

But at least we can be 100% certain those tariffs will still be in place in a few years when the factories are finished.

Not to mention those trained people mentioned above attempting to move here have to fight deportation for checks notes, coming here on a work visa, having a tattoo, speaking your mind, not being white. Hard to say really.

[–] towerful@programming.dev 42 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And ICE will pick up those immigrants by Monday, never to be seen again.

Just build all the factories in El Salvador, then when they have to ship all the Americans back they can each bring a car or something with them to avoid the tariffs.

[–] HowAbt2morrow@futurology.today 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

By the weekend? You need more than 24 hours for such a simple and straightforward task? Come on bruh? /s

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago

Gotta be "hardcore"!

[–] Litebit@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (4 children)

It is just Trump theatrics. He is actually trying to collect taxes from Americans through tariffs. It will takes years before the factories start operations.

[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 35 points 1 week ago (3 children)

It would* take years. The factories aren't going to start operations at all.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 11 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Pretty much. Nobody believes the tariffs will outlive Trump, and he's very old. Why drop a huge capital expense to solve a problem that will go away?

[–] qprimed@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

a problem that will go away

oh, god - I now have anticipatory... stirrings. thanks, obama.

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[–] Litebit@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

True, it was just a trick, (act) to collect more taxes from Americans. No wonder they put a TV show host to be a president.

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[–] GorGor@startrek.website 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I think he actually believes this will move manufacturing to the US. He is a moron afterall.

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[–] seven_phone@lemmy.world 56 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Come to American so we can deport you to a concentration camp.

[–] madame_gaymes@programming.dev 11 points 1 week ago

It's ok, our soldiers are like the Nazis, they will treat you with love. /s

[–] hikuro93@lemmy.ca 43 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

So let's consider an extreme situation, based on this exact premise.

Eventually those same companies migrating to the US will become isolated from the rest of the consumer world (EU and rest of Europe, British Commonwealth, China, Mexico and many more) due to tariffs being applied on the US, if not full trade ban in some cases, and be restricted to US and Russian markets... With underperforming products because the US doesn't have the independent production capabilities it thinks it does. Ironically funny.

And that's not even mentioning the internal disadvantages in this whole process, like white supremacy disguised as anti-DEI, having to constantly kiss the ring for a chance at tax exemptions (which are not guaranteed), and selling to a presumably poor consumer base with a few ultra-rich in the mix.

Make it make sense. And make me some popcorn and bring me my 3D glasses, because I sure as hell won't feel sorry for any company falling for this "huge deal". 🤷‍♂️

[–] taladar@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Don't forget the lack of qualified workers in a country that just got rid of its department of education.

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And any qualified workers you do have could randomly disappear to El Salvador at any moment.

[–] taladar@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 week ago

Or, more likely, be smart enough to see the sign of the times and emigrate to a saner country.

[–] madame_gaymes@programming.dev 5 points 1 week ago

I mean, it is a perfectly legitimate strategy for the proverbial MAGA motto itself. Everything is great if you understand nothing.

[–] Litebit@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They will just move 1 factory to US but will still have factories outside US that manufacture cheaply for the rest of the world outside US. Some American will buy from overseas while travelling.

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[–] Gates9@sh.itjust.works 42 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

How long does this fuck think it takes to build a pharmaceutical or electronics plant? How you gonna source the materials dumass? Who do you think makes the equipment? You’re asking people to set up manufacturing and support infrastructure overnight, all the logistical integration…This man has a small child’s grasp on all of this shit.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 week ago

You just aren't ambitious and distruptive enough, below you can view my excellence plan.

Do it under tent light. Get a roller, flatten everything real nice. Setup a tent city near a stream so you can pump water in and industrial waste material out. Do it in a red state that will allow cheap child labor. Then hire any desperate people you can find for 50 cents over what the market rate is for unskilled labor to do the complicated stuff. When you make stuff, you shouldn't care if the products are up to specifications or not, that could cost a lot of money to do perfectly. Only accept cash in advance. If some whiny customer tries to sue you, make sure to draw it out until all your current contracts are done. Then just dissolve the "company" pick a new name out of the hat and operate again tomorrow. Have sales people selling in advance under the next companies name. When buying any supplies that won't be regularly needed, always fail to pay them, then tie them up in stupid contract disputes until you Phoenix yourself into a new company.

[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

See his quote about no environmental delays, we don't just have that stuff made over there because it's cheaper. We also do it because of the environmental fallout from having such plants.

Also no way will we get Americans to do these jobs. Hell Apple plants hsve to have nets to keep employees from killing themselves. Also don't they have to live at the plant?

[–] ByteJunk@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

Isn't this why Americans are sent to prison? So they can provide free labour?

[–] Gates9@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Hey look, environmental and labor rights issues aside, and not discounting that, if we want to make the United States a manufacturing powerhouse again I’m all for it but it requires actual central planning and investment ala Bernie Sanders, and it’s gonna take ten years.

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[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 41 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Why would someone move a company to a country that is hell-bound to bankrupt itself?

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[–] andallthat@lemmy.world 34 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Apple is going to become a US company? This is yuuge!

[–] Bonesince1997@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago

It just needs to find a suit and show proper gratification first. No more DEI turtle necks.

[–] thefartographer@lemm.ee 29 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Isn't it cheaper to stop doing business with us than to alienate the rest of the world? I mean, it sucks to be in the middle of this, but I have zero confidence that I'm going to survive the next 3 years.

Yes. Trump doesn't understand that that's an option.

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[–] FauxPseudo@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago (3 children)

They can't. The ability to get an equipment loan is dead. It will take years to build factories. Longer than the presidential term. When you move fast you break things. In this case they broke the global economy.

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[–] wabafee@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I have this feeling companies will just hunker down and wait it out until the next guy comes into office. While everyone suffer.

[–] zephorah@lemm.ee 17 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Is this man functioning at full capacity? It took over a year to build a chain grocery store in a nearby town and that’s mostly stuff on shelves, not a production line set-up. Time was spent up front as well, in planning and logistics, that I wasn’t able to see, such that the total time to build a chain grocery store took well over a year, maybe two or even three.

Meanwhile, Trump expects “now” for manufacturing.

Never mind the fact that Americans won’t be able to buy products of that manufacturing due to high costs. What was the estimate, that iPhones manufactured here would cost $2k+? Something like that.

[–] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

$2300, and that assumes that they can even get the materials.

China has silently stopped shipping a lot of metals used in high tech applications that it controls 90% of the stock of. The 10%? Our previous trade partners Canada and Australia, who aren't big fans right now.

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[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 5 points 1 week ago

Unfortunately, for him this is full capacity, yes.

[–] Jaysyn@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

Fucking delulu.

[–] EvilBit@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The stupidest part is that of fucking COURSE there are zero tariffs if you move to the US, because tariffs are BY DEFINITION placed on imports. There’s no limit to the fuckery he can apply to you domestically, it’s just guaranteed not to be called “tariffs”.

[–] madame_gaymes@programming.dev 7 points 1 week ago

That's all his base needs, a different name. They won't question it further than that.

[–] realitista@lemm.ee 11 points 1 week ago

Please! Do it quick before our economy collapses!

[–] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 10 points 1 week ago

Not like it takes a week to move your production to America.

[–] TwinTitans@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

Oh is that how it works? You just had to tell them? Stfu.

[–] renamon_silver@lemmy.wtf 8 points 1 week ago
[–] Litebit@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

no tariffs but products will still be more expensive (manufacturing cost) than buying the same outside US. So people will still go overseas to buy the substantially cheaper same-product brand.

Why is he begging companies to relocate to US, though? to save face?

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 week ago

Why is he begging companies to relocate to US, though? to save face?

To pretend like his tariffs have a goal he wants to achieve that isn't just creating vassal states.

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 5 points 1 week ago

That is the logic of isolationist policies. Whether Trump succeeds or not depends on whether the EU and other trade powers let him succeed. Some industries in the EU are already lobbying against the EU, so it sucks up to Trump. Letting them succeed means letting Trump succeed.

Lmao I’m moving most of my assets to international. Fuck this place. We’re headed for the cumulogranite.

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