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I think this is the key thing to remember about those that commit crimes. The penalty is never in their minds when they're considering committing a crime. Either they're presuming that they'll get away scott-free, or that the alternative of not committing the crime is worse than any penalty that could come.

Find me a single person who debates if they'll get two years or five for doing something. Most criminals are completely unaware of what the penalties are in the first place. It could be life for anything worse than shoplifting, and they'll still do it because the penalty was never in their minds in the first place. This is why putting the entire burden of crime prevention on punishments don't work.

Not saying that punishments don't work, but they don't prevent serious crimes in the first place, only minor ones. Punishments only deal with criminals by preventing them from having any opportunities to commit crimes because they're in jail. It's having people be in a good enough position in life that the prospect of ANY jail time enough of a detriment to avoid committing the crime. Having too much to lose is a far better way to prevent crime than guarantee the destruction of a life when you're already destroying their life via other means.

Either way, people who commit violent crimes are never thinking about the punishment before doing so. It's only those that do minor ones like speeding that think about it. Though that said, if you get jail time for speeding, maybe people would actually stop doing 80 in a 40 school zone.

Yes, it's working so well in Murca with their biggest incarcerated population in the world. Here come those jobs the Cons want to provide.

It is neo-fascist lack-of-virtue signalling. The US has spent $2 trillion losing the war on drugs. That money could have eliminated poverty in the US which would have greatly improved the crime and drug use situations (one and the same, really) but that doesn't satisfy the braying white supremacists and class supremacists in the right wing base.

That's the winning right wing playbook. Tell you to be afraid. Tell you that the people who make you feel bad for being dumb (the intellectual elitists), racist and ignorant (the woke), backwards (progressives) are bad and that you are right to feel resentful and angry instead of trying to improve yourself and that crime is running rampant because of those people and white people are going to be replaced because of those people, and immigrants are invading the country because of those people, and they are the only ones who can protect you by letting you have military style weapons to protect yourself and your family, by being tough in crime with three strikes and mandatory minimum sentences, and by stopping immigrating and deporting non-whute people. The racist, ignorant, backward folks eat that alternate reality up.

In Dare Devil they touch this topic and the guy getting arrested for stealing some popcorn or something like that says they want to spend thousands of dollars to jail me for a month, rather than feed me for thousands less.

*Asking for an (Indian friend).

There's gotta be a cooldown right? This is why I space out activations of my ult "Do A Crime".

Harper spent a couple of billion dollars building new prison beds that CSC didn't want or need because he was going to be tough on crime. Governors and former governors from states that had tried tough on crime told him that it didn't work and not to do it. He did it anyway to lack-of-virtue virtue signal to his angry, hateful, moronic base. Then, one by one after spending years in court and hundreds of millions of dollars of our tax dollars, those unconstitutional laws were struck down by the Supreme Court.

I think he says those two ideas in separate breaths so they're far apart enough that his voters don't notice the dissonance.

Agreed. But there are better ways of dealing with this than making laws that will inevitably be struck down by the Supreme Court.

This predates Trump by decades. Officials from states that had tried three strikes tough on crime laws told Harper it didn't work but he did it anyway. You tell stupid period that crime is out if control to make them afraid then tell them that you are the only politician that will protect them by being tough on crime.

Sound familiar? Republicans have been doing it in the US for decades. Polievre is trying to do it here. The foreign neo-fascist oligarch owned corporate media has been hyping crime in Canada without telling you that there is a major biker war going on and that unless you're a biker the spike in crime isn't going to touch you.

Also, what happened to the Haitians in Springfield eating pets. I thought the Trumper were going fix that as soon as they got into office, or was that just a lie to make morons fear and fate immigrants to help Trump get elected?

Don't let Polievre do that to Canada.