I still don't know whether you're supposed to hit those and I also don't know if it's normal to get two challenges or if that just means I did the first one wrong.
It doesn't really matter, they don't expect you to get everything right on these. While most of the time you need to get mostly right (Google is using these to train their AI so often they are not sure themselves), they are also looking at other things, like how you move your mouse, and the cookies that they use to spy on people to determine the probability of you being a human. If you pass a certain threshold they let you through, and you can do it even if you miss a square.
and the cookies that they use to spy on people to determine the probability of you being a human
which is why I assume, as a VPN user who rejects as many cookies as possible, I constantly have to do 5-6 fucking captchas in a row, sometimes more, before it'll let me through.. I can't be that bad at doing them lol
Is it frustrating? Fuck yeah. Will it get me to change my behaviour and drop those measures so that the companies getting in my way can collect more of my data? Fuck no.
I use a trackball mouse for disability reasons. I have to actively slow my cursor movement to a crawl and deliberately slowly click each square otherwise I fail captcha's
it's infuriating
AFAIK, the first one is the real check, the second one is too train their image recognition AI.
It has to be more sophisticated than that. Otherwise users could easily taint the datasets by giving wrong answers on purpose.
It probably checks your answer against the current model's best guess and if it's close enough, you get a pass and your input is added to the training data for the next iteration. The more wrong you are, the more challenges you get.
Isn't it normal to get something like 6 challenges?
And suddenly one of them has new slow loading images which you won't notice before clicking continue, thus failing
Answer wrong. The more of us humans that answer wrong, the less accurate we need to be to get past these stupid things. If google want me to do work for them, they can pay me.
I unwittingly do that all the time. It often takes me 30+ Captchas before I finally get in. Then I've forgotten what the hell I was doing in the first place.
If google want me to do work for them, they can pay me.
They kinda do. This is the way the "free" model of internet services works. One of the reasons I think we should probably switch to expecting services to either be paid or non-profit, rather than ad/data-supported.
Yeah, but the whole point of offering free services was just a ploy to crush competition with shorter runways to profit. Google could just sustain "free"services longer than their competitors could remain solvent.
Now that they've run most of their competitors into the ground, and now that people and businesses have become dependent on these services. They can bank off advertising and monetizing services with subscriptions.
Google business accounts used to be free, now you have to pay 9 bucks a month per employee, and you are subjected to even more advertising. Neither advertising nor subscriptions are going anywhere, especially now that subscription plans are so normalized.
Whenever I get a capcha of anyone on a vehicle, I always make it a point to highlight the entirety of the driver too because I’m not going to just let Google train its self-driving vehicles to just ignore that every motorcycle has a rider on it.
The worst for me is the motorcycles one; half of the pictures are of motor scooters. Does it count those as motorcycles or is it counting on the user to know the difference because they’re not technically the same thing?
I was about to make a similar comment but you beat me to it.
It recently showed me a bicycle as part of “select all motorcycles” so I didn’t pick it. And I failed. Twice. Finally picked the bicycle and it let me through. Guess the computer knows best.
It also does it the other way around. I failed recently for not calling a motorcycle a bicycle.
Same shit with bikes. Is the rider part of the bike or not?
Consindering that we're training Ai to be safe on the roads i would say the rider is the most vital part.
This scenario pisses me off as I debate how pedantic to be.
Hate this. Every time, I seem to guess wrong.
Guess I'm a robot.
Its worst when you clearly see small traffic lights far back in the same pucture
This is what "AI training" looks like, folks. The companies developing AI constantly tells us how awesome it is, but it still needs the help of humans to recognize basic sh*t like cars, buses, crosswalks and traffic lights. They didn't choose those images by accident.
I stress about the whole damn pole. If you showed me a picture of a traffic 🚦 on pole, and asked me what it was, I would say "a traffic light" not "a traffic loght and a traffic light pole"
Try the audio captcha, those seem to have actual valid answers to them.
Funny enough, there's an extension that solves captchas by feeding that audio through a speech recognition algorithm. If anything it's more reliable than solving them manually
Yes, Buster Captcha Solver extension (in GitHub, Firefox, Chromium), but there are novadays also several others, which works in all type of capchas, using AI. Because of this, Captchas are obsolet since years, turning simply in annoying clickbaits. They can't avoid bots anymore.
It's funny that captchas are in a never ending arms race with bots trained on the same datasets capturing humans answering these stupid puzzles.
Pretty soon we're going to be drinking verification cans
I started half-assing these a long time ago because they never fail anyway.
Yeah sometimes I'm like, well that's a moped, does it count as a motorcycle?
These are actually checking if you are a bot btw, so to pass them more quickly just don’t move like a bot would. Do shit a bot wouldnt do like clicking and unclicking something, swirl your cursor around the screen, etc.
Also answer these kind of wrong to fuck with AI
The ones that get me are captchas saying select all squares with motorcycles when it is clearly a bicycle.
There was an inflection point where captcha went from "demonstrate human vision" to "guess what the robot sees."
I got one asking for mountain ranges where one was plainly the tops of nearby trees. Which I got scolded for not clicking on.
They must have increased the difficulty at one point cause I ain't kidding, I cannot solve them anymore. I swear to god I donit correctly but it never works.
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That could happen when the system has already flagged you as unwanted traffic. It just keeps giving you Captchas to solve until you eventually give up voluntarily.
They do that on purpose, as an AI/Bot wouldn't hesitate.
Sometimes I'll be stuck on a captcha because I'm answering too fast, so I'll wait a delay then hit the answer and suddenly it stops going in circles
I thought the reason is they want to see the limits of what a human considers qualify as answer to their question in order to better train their AI?
Edit: Although I guess nothing is stopping the answer from being Porque No los Dos?
I just think to myself: What would a robot do?
What I hate so much more are the OpenAI captchas. Especially the goddamn rat ones
It's the text ones for me. I struggle to read the font on some of them so I can't tell the difference between a capital letter or a lowercase one so now if they've the text reader for blind/partially sighted people I'll use that.
I believe you haven't met the Yandex Captcha. I don't know anyone who passed that.
I had one of the old fashioned distorted text ones the other day, but instead of something like "please enter the text above" it just said "are you human?" next to the text box. Naturally, I typed "yes" but that turned out to be the wrong answer.
Yeah, had to adapt my patterns so i don't get always flagged as bot.
This was me in the early days of captchas. Now I'm all like 360 no-scope BOOM HEADSHOT let me in motherfuckers!
