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I get it. There's some real jerks around here. Whether they're constantly argumentative, downright rude, always acting in bad faith, just plain trolls, overly opinionated on every subject, have the social skills of a Nausicaan, or whatever - the Fediverse is growing, and it's bound to attract toxicity in one way or another.

This post is mostly a PSA for anyone who's feeling like leaving because they're tired of dealing with things like that. I've been there several times myself, I know exactly how you feel, and I'm tired of seeing good people harassed off the platform.

Just remember that blocking is a very powerful way to stay in control of your experience. Be it a set of users, me specifically, a list of keywords, a whole community, or an entire instance: if it's causing you nothing but stress, hit that block button and see if that improves your experience here. Unlike the alien site, there is no limit to the number of entities you can block; you're in control.

Another thing to keep in mind is different instances have different vibes, and the experience can totally differ depending on the instance's moderation and federation policy.

In conclusion, your experience here can be what you make of it; don't be afraid to just block the parts that stress you out. You're not "creating an echo chamber" as everyone likes to say (often in bad faith) -- you're just taking care of yourself.

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[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 50 points 5 days ago (18 children)

Also, voyager lets you tag users which is a godsend.

If I notice someone who is unnecessarily rude, dodgy opinions, bigoted or something, I add a tag, and if I see it is constant repetitive behaviour, I’ll block them.

[–] donuts@lemmy.world 15 points 5 days ago (5 children)

Thunder too, installed it specifically for user tags!

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 13 points 5 days ago (5 children)

I hope they bring that to Lemmy overall, it will make for a much better experience for everyone. Mobile is really hard to mod from.

[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

There is a voyager frontend on web. But I think it’s only a mobile view https://vger.app/posts/lemm.ee/all

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[–] StarlightDust@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I recently had someone I already had tagged as "racist" replying to me with some misogyny, clicked on his profile and found him defending the R slur. Because instances are smaller, it's actually feasible to message instance admins when there is someone like that too.

[–] ComfortablyDumb@lemmy.ca 5 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Okay I am gonna bite. What is the R slur?

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You can also track aggregate up and down votes per user! You're a solid +13 for me, you're cool.

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[–] phlegmy@sh.itjust.works 20 points 5 days ago (8 children)

Filters are nice too, if you're here for escapism rather than news.

[–] fxomt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Currently, only lemmy apps support keyword filtering. But on lemmy 1.0 we're going to get proper keyword filters :DDDD

https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/pull/5263

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[–] haverholm@kbin.earth 25 points 5 days ago (5 children)

I'd add "report" to that advice. If somebody is outright being jerks, that is probably against your instance's rules — and if it isn't, there are plenty others to choose from.

Blocking helps you, but reporting people (or instances) that are just here to troll will help others.

[–] fxomt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 5 days ago

I read all reports on my instance (i get reports on our users and from our users, too; so i see quite a lot) rest assured, all your reports actually do something.

[–] ptz@dubvee.org 15 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

True. If it's report-worthy, absolutely. But there are certainly accounts that aren't violating any rules but can still be a source of stress. Those are often the "rules lawyer" type who knows exactly how to stay right on the line without crossing it.

Counterpoint is that if that person is finally banned, they're 9 times out of 10 just going to spin up a new alt and start back up with the same shtick. If everyone just blocks them, they're just shouting into the wind wondering why no one's taking their bait. I dislike how Reddit had "shadow bans", but I can see how they would be effective when used surgically.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 8 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Temp bans (a couple of days), work too. If they're actually trolling, they usually won't come back. Then just temp ban the next alt if they do, repeat.

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[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 9 points 5 days ago

I agree with this 100%. The mods can't get rid of the bad guys if they don't know about them. There are very few mods for relatively big communities, help them out if you see something going bad. They might not agree with you, but it's still good practice if people aren't following the rules.

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[–] SARGE@startrek.website 19 points 5 days ago (3 children)

I know for a fact I'm opinionated, and don't have problems sharing them.

Please, by all means, block me if you think seeing my comments is adversely affecting you. I'd rather be ignored by someone than make their day worse (unless they're actively trying to make others miserable, but that's a separate discussion)

The fediverse has definitely gotten a little less hostile after blocking a few things.

And remember you can jump ship to another instance at any time! I've hopped a few times but for now my instance is filling my needs without much drama that I am aware of.

[–] gigachad@sh.itjust.works 6 points 5 days ago

I quickly went over your comment history of the last 30 days and you have almost no downvotes. You are a wholesome person and I'm glad you are here!

[–] ptz@dubvee.org 6 points 5 days ago

I think it's less about having strong opinions and more with how those are expressed. But either way, you're here with a good attitude, and that's appreciated.

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[–] ComfortablyDumb@lemmy.ca 13 points 5 days ago (2 children)

The biggest toxicity comes from the tank triad. I have blocked them and now it is peaceful.

[–] ptz@dubvee.org 14 points 5 days ago (1 children)

That's like the "install uBlock Origin" first step as far as I'm concerned lol.

[–] ComfortablyDumb@lemmy.ca 9 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Yup. Learned it the hard way. My first account was with lemmy.ml and it got banned because of criticizing China. I consider myself leftist and the amount of censorship the tank triad do to ensure China numba wan is mind numbing.

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[–] Trashbones@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] TORFdot0@lemmy.world 12 points 5 days ago (9 children)

Lemmy.ml Lemmygrad Hexbear

Basically the 3 far left instances that will enforce the discourse to be Marxist and anti-west.

Most instances are defederated from the latter two but not the first because that instance is run by the main Lemmy devs (who are communists)

[–] ComfortablyDumb@lemmy.ca 14 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Not even communists. I have had communists as friends during my grad and undergrad. Tank triad are a worser kind. They actively hinders any discussion against China. Tianenmen? Never happened. Mao's genocide? western propaganda. Chinese imperialism in Tibet? China reclaiming its historical boundaries. Basically China and USSR can never do anything wrong. If they did, its western propaganda.

Also why cant they defederate from lemmy.ml? That should be technically possible as the code is open source and can be fetched easily to run an instance?

[–] TORFdot0@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago

Anyone can defederate from .ml but they have a lot of users being the dev run site, so many don’t. Or at least that’s the reason lemmy.world has given in the past about why they have don’t federate with hexbear and lemmygrad but still do with ml

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago

They're not Marxists sadly, they're worse.

They're Stalinists who want authoritarianism.

Marx wouldn't have condoned having a dictator/Tzar

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[–] melisdrawing@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago

I never thought I needed to block any user, because, you know, I'm a big kid and I can handle any of the dirty words. Turns out, there are just reavers out there in space with their cores exposed just letting the hatred and radiation wash over them. I have all this empathy and I know they were once people and maybe they can be redeemed, but no. They are reavers. Block and move on with caution.

[–] LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 4 days ago (4 children)

I have blocked 264 users, 9 communities and 4 instances and it's made Lemmy much better for me toxicity wise. Whenever a debate gets toxic or someone starts just insulting or discussing in bad faith or I just get a bad vibe from them - I block.

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[–] RealFknNito@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (4 children)

I've blocked communities and instances that don't speak English, ones that have absurd ideological basis (anarchy supporters), and occasionally people who just say really dumb things, a lot.

I vastly prefer encouraging blocking over censorship/moderation. If someone is being an asshole, having the ability to say it, vent those feelings for a moment, then readjust is a catharsis that's been nearly outlawed especially on platforms ~~on~~ like TikTok.

Obviously not everything should be permitted and everything has its limits, but the internet seems to over correct things into a passionless husk of forced friendliness. To shove people into forming a facade that feels like a shrinking cage. Sterile.

Curating my own experience has been invaluable and I highly encourage it.

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[–] VinesNFluff@pawb.social 5 points 4 days ago

In conclusion, your experience here can be what you make of it; don’t be afraid to just block the parts that stress you out. You’re not “creating an echo chamber” as everyone likes to say (often in bad faith) – you’re just taking care of yourself.

We really, REALLY need to de-stigmatize blocking people. Bad-faith concern trolls have successfully convinced people that "choosing not to interact with someone" is akin to censorship and also bad for us because what do you MEAN you don't want to be disrespected by a complete stranger? Are you creating an echo chamber by preferring to be with people who are nice to you?!?!?!?

Like. No. Fuck off. That's not how it works in real life. We're not friends. We're not even co-workers for me to be stuck having to be polite to you even if you're an asshole.

You're a complete stranger and you're saying rude shit at me (or even at other people with me bearing witness), at best I'll walk away because I don't need that shit, at worst I'll call you a wanker and hit you in the face.

[–] Corgana@startrek.website 12 points 5 days ago

Additional PSA to admins not running a "universal free speech" instance- if you see someone someone being obnoxious it's probably annoying your users just as much as is is you. Don't put the onus fully on users to curate their experience. The Fediverse needs our adults in the room!

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 10 points 5 days ago

Im a big believer in block. I think its better for people to peruse all and block communities they are uninterested in and you should totally block users you don't like. To me it should be like real life. Don't hang with folks you don't like. My hope for the fediverse is instances that only remove things to stay out of legal trouble and communities that only block things that are unrelated. I want all the big tools to be at the user level. Bottom up.

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 11 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I’ve yet to block anyone here and the only one I had blocked on Reddit was Gallowboob.

[–] scytale@lemm.ee 14 points 5 days ago

Well that's a name I haven't heard in a long time.

[–] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Make sure to also report the people you see being toxic, astroturfing, or downright attacking users. Many instances have policies against this and reporting them will increase the likelihood they'll be dealt with, in some cases permanently.

This is something that should be discussed more since blocking is not a moderation function that makes the platform better, it's a tool for people to pretend the problems don't exist. I'm not a fan of pretending issues don't exist, especially since I'm a mod and that would be insanely counter-productive.

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[–] Gibibit@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

By all means, use the block feature to remove stressors if it helps.

For me personally, unless someone is actively haranguing me in DMs I'd rather not block them. Sure people can place comments that get me riled up. Or sometimes they seem downright hostile. Maybe they're having a bad day, you can't say. But it goes both ways, if I'm tired or having a bad day I could be misinterpreting people's comments and blocking them for no reason.

If a comment is so bad/rude it becomes rule-breaking I'd rather report it and have a moderator tell them off, it might be a valuable lesson for them or if they are repeat offenders the mods can dish out appropriate punishment. This keeps the instance and community in question healthy.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Is it the people that are toxic? Or is it the world or a living in right now?

[–] rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee 5 points 5 days ago

toxic people made the world toxic which in turn made more people toxic

[–] Trashboat@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 5 days ago

That’s one of the benefits of the smaller community here too, the block button actually feels like it does something. If you’re frustrated by comments that add nothing to anything or are fishing for drama etc, a short commitment to blocking repeat offenders really improves things quickly

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