I always find it weird when guys refer to girls as "females". I can't help but read it in a Ferengi voice.
"Females and finances don't mix. Rule of Acquisition 94."
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I always find it weird when guys refer to girls as "females". I can't help but read it in a Ferengi voice.
"Females and finances don't mix. Rule of Acquisition 94."
My favorite thing about that is that, in DS9, a female ferenghi goes on to be the most successful leader of their people ever.
Last i checked Rom was a male ferengi tho (I know you mean Ishta)
I think it's as weird and antisocial as the next guy to call women "females" but I also think it's weird that it's treated like not receiving approval from women is the worst possible thing that can happen to a man when implying that women need male approval is obviously sexist
idk, some incels will certainly act like not getting approval from women was the worst possible thing that could happen to them, and then go and do something much worse to others
yeah but this post isn't about incels. posts like these shoot strays at all men
While I agree, it specifically says “those men,” so I think the idea is that men who see women as wombs or genes or whatever should also expect to be viewed with the same lens
It's not about that. It's their choice of insult. Saying "people who voted for Trump are retarded" doesn't make it not ableist just because you specified it's about Trump voters. Catch my drift?
Ah I see what you’re saying, yeah agreed. I think I too quickly read your comment, cheers
Personally I think that using sexual desirability as a point of ridicule is pretty toxic regardless of who is doing it and it's not going to help to solve the problem, but "not receiving approval from women" kind of is the worst possible thing that can happen for a lot of them, at least in their minds. The whole "men and females" thing has its roots in incel culture and they're well known to obsess over the tiniest facets of their interactions with women to the point of nausea, looking for any excuse to condemn women for not being attracted to them. They see not receiving approval from women as the ultimate condemnation of not only women, but also themselves. It's why people use it as an insult - it's effective against them.
Some of these men call other men "males" as well. I used to call both genders by such "technical" terminology because I did not think it was offensive until a woman complained in a forum I frequented like 15 years ago.
TBH I feel annoyed that I can't use those terms because I know some guys use the term to intentionally dehumanize specifically women and I am not that sort of guy. But also I really tend to embrace neutral/technical/clinical language a lot because of a general disdain for romantic thinking and language.
Things are not more than what they are.
anything you call people will offend some people….
i’m sure some chucklefyck doesn’t want to be called a “people”… actually “you people” is often offensive.
it’s all about context, and being as respectful as is reasonable… for example, “retard” literally means “slow”… you could retard the growth of a plant. mentally retarded was just a term for having severe cognitive disabilities that made you unable to interact normally and made you need care to live… but through a history of people abusing those people, and of course using that as an insult made it offensive and dehumanizing.
with calling people “females”, i think it’s because it’s extremely uncommon except for when people are dehumanizing women… so when someone innocently use the term they can be seen as likely oppressive… due to context.
also, given the transphobia thing, and scientific/anthropology defining female as the biological sex and woman as the associated gender, one might think you’re slipping transphobia into regular conversation…
and of course people like simple heuristics so “guys who call women ‘females’ are likely bad people”, works well enough….
Sounds ok to me (male).
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I had no idea that this term has a negative connotation to it. I knew it only as a very neutral, rational term. But when I literally translate it to my native language, then I'll start to understand it. Used in the given context, it's objectifying and degrading and I guess it's the same for English.
thank god i don't rate my value as a human to if someone else considers me fuckable or not.
that is ick and ew no matter which gender
Calling someone a "female" to their face certainly makes you unfuckable tho.
If your native language is English and your intent is to be demeaning, sure
Seems like this is one of those things that women think will make men uncomfortable, but really winds up making their day because men are so starved of positive connection that even a neutral commentary on their life is refreshing because that means someone is paying attention to them.
I wouldn't describe being called "unfuckable" neutral. But yeah they probably would like some level of attention, even the negative kind.
I can’t tell you how many times I’ve been referred to as a “male” or “man” or “cis gender male” and it doesn’t bother me one single bit. I generally just avoid people who get offended over every little “wrong” word
Amen to this man. People get too tied up in little words and stupid shit. So many bigger fish to fry but you'll get upset when someone uses the word female in any context.
I doubt any male would find this offensive. Call em males, they are afterall. If anything they will most likely play into the narration and make you say some absurd shit just for the lulz
Women’s lib has a mere 50yrs on it and there’s still work to do. People lose sight of how new it is for women to own their own bank accounts and such.
Maybe because men weren't seen as second-class citizens and aren't used to being objectified, belittled or physically and legally forced into a submissive role.
I don't like leaving serious comments on a place like this, especially since you are right that's how most men would react, just felt I had to say something since calling women 'females' is actually quite seriously wrong (even though they are afterall) and the fact that men don't experience this behaviour as something scary it makes that clear. I like this meme because it empowers women to do as they please, and I think you do not mean to defend mysogonists who want to dehumanise women, but some people might read into your comment 'well the reason woman get upset by this is because women are [something negative], while men are [something positive]'.
I only use the term 'females' in the context of ... some kind of discussion of medical or biological studies ... or to differentiate between a girlfriend and a platonic female friend...
But I am guilty of the whole open fridge and sigh thing.
However.
If I turned around and David Attenborough was physically present, narrating me... I think I would be overjoyed and just try to get him to watch a nature documentary with me.
Or even better, go outside and just continue to be amused at his narration of me, and see if I can't get him to a park or something and see if he switches over to narrating the ducks.
I'm not a native speaker, but I think it's normal to request a "female nurse" but asking for a "woman nurse" sounds weird. But saying "I would like my nurse to be a woman" sounds normal again
Use woman when you need a noun, use female when you need an adjective. It's that easy
Or, only time, use it as a noun in a clinical/scientific sense when you literally are distinguishing "people who were born with ovaries", IE "Females have higher estrogen levels" or something like that, when you are literally talking about the physical sex, and not gender.