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[–] Doctor_Satan@lemm.ee 9 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

A Democrat would never do it. You'd need an actual Leftist. They'd be the only ones with enough spine to sacrifice their own political career and reputation to get it done.

Yeah, but a bj in the oval office? I mean, have you met Hilary???

[–] WorkshopBubby@lemmy.ca -1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

True. Democrats only want to govern like actual adults.

[–] Doctor_Satan@lemm.ee 1 points 6 hours ago

I can't blame you if you prefer the orderliness of corporatism over the chaos of fascism, but the former always ultimately leads to the latter. At some point, you have to get rid of one to prevent the other.

[–] PunkRockSportsFan@fanaticus.social 8 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

“If” doing some heavy lifting there

As a dem voter I'm use to betting on precariously placed 'ifs.'

[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 23 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

Democrats are centrist liberals. They are capitalists. They are cop-loving authoritarians. They will never fulfill your leftist liberatory desires. Stop deferring your political will to wishes they will never manifest. You have Stockholm Syndrome. Go do something yourself that matters to you in your own community.

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 10 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Well said, I'm still going to post my opinions but there's really nothing you've said that I can refute.

[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 6 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

I should probably add: I don't mean to be a dick. I say all this stuff because I care, I hate seeing comrades efforts and dreams and desires frustrated by this deadend political party year after year, election after election. I imagine if all the passion we drained into the DNC instead went into creative modes of organization and direct action in our own towns and cities?

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 2 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

All I can see doing right now is try to raise consciousness about what the midterms will mean. I don't think they are going to do a behind closed doors steal. This administration couldn't plan anything requiring that level of coordination. No, I think they will do it all right infront of our eyes. Closing polling places. Rampant voter intimidation. State governments interfering. All leading up to forcing scotuses hand.

People aren't going to know how to react and ultimately they will walk away feeling defeated. Really we need to accept now that the midterms are going to be sabotaged and take to the street before hand. That's not going to happen because as much as I plead no one will listen until it's too late.

Even now we see trumps agenda stalling out. What i believe is happening is they are promising him everything for after midterms. That's why you don't see him going scorched earth. If you don't think his cabinet is planning their reichstag fire as we speak then you haven't been paying attention for the last 9 years.

[–] BarbecueCowboy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 14 hours ago

I wish, but that's the opposite of the goal of the democratic party. They don't see themselves as the opposition to the Republican party. Only priorities are maintaining the status quo and getting funding. That does tend to be better for us than the alternative, but any downstream benefits are mostly a happy accident.

[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 12 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

If we manage to have another presidential election, I will be behind any progressive or Democrat that promises to use the presidency in the exact way as Trump.

[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 10 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Forcing an rewritten version of the Constitution that eliminates flaws and loopholes, enacting term and age limits on all elected offices and the judiciary, deleting the electoral college, and so forth?

I am in.

[–] uniquethrowagay@feddit.org 4 points 14 hours ago

The US needs a proportional voting system first and foremost

[–] sugarfoot00@lemmy.ca 2 points 16 hours ago

We're due for some public executions

[–] SulaymanF@lemmy.world 19 points 21 hours ago (4 children)

Pandora’s box is opened, and once that happens, it’s almost impossible to close it. I’m going to be honest, the next election cycle, I’ll consider voting for the blue equivalent of Trump. Now that we know presidents can act like kings, it’s time progressives capitalized on that. Why not lock up rightwingers and hatemongers, slap tariffs on oil, and deport Zionists?

[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 6 points 18 hours ago

Presidents can act like kings if they have the Legislative and Judicial branches in their pocket. No progressive ever will.

Have you met democrats?

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[–] ERROR_100_000_100@infosec.pub 20 points 22 hours ago

This is how it looks like:

Biden: "I need y'all to execute the traitor Donald J. Trump"

Military: "I'm sorry Mr. President, I'm afraid we cannot do that."

Trump: "I need y'all to round up these democrat [n-word] thugs"

Military: "Can we just shoot them?"

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 17 points 1 day ago

Presidential immunity gives a democratic incumbent the right to slap a republican senator daily

[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 31 points 1 day ago

They would need to grow spines first.

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 142 points 1 day ago (8 children)

if Democrats ever win I fully exepct this:

"Now is a time of healing. To better unify our Great Nation™®© we are going to let Republicans fill every committee and pick every judge, we are even looking into how we might let them have the presidency. If we can't, do not worry, we will behave as if we were Republicans and will do as they wish."

[–] takeda@lemm.ee 42 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I think Bernie's Fight the Oligarchy Tour is changing this, but more people needs to push this.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

So is David Hogg, the new Vice Chair of the DNC. He’s a Gen-Z school shooting survivor who’s committed to primary out the centrists and turn them into a real opposition party.

[–] octopus_ink@slrpnk.net 3 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

committed to primary out the centrists and turn them into a real opposition party.

I can only say good luck to him. I think the party still wants to be R-lite again.

SHOCK POLL: AOC a Close Second Place Behind Kamala Harris in 2028 Democratic Primary

https://www.mediaite.com/news/shock-poll-aoc-a-close-second-place-behind-kamala-harris-in-2028-democratic-primary/

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 4 points 16 hours ago (4 children)
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[–] jonne@infosec.pub 14 points 1 day ago

Yep, that's what Obama did with the Bush people and the people that caused the GFC. And now all these people are back for round 2 with nothing learned (well, they learned there are no consequences no matter what they do).

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[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 49 points 1 day ago (13 children)

That's literally the opposite of what the Dem leadership ever does. Expecting them to put the outcomes for regular people over system rules and norms (and their owner donors) is like expecting a sheep to become an obligate carnivore.

Neoliberals don't change the system, they ARE the system. You're not going to get systemic change from someone whose raison d'être is protecting the norms and rules at all costs.

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[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 49 points 1 day ago (9 children)

lmao what

you still believe in these fucks?

System's broken. We don't need a different party in charge of the system we need a new system.

[–] Ileftreddit@lemmy.world 5 points 21 hours ago

This is why Sanders has told new politicians to run as independents, neither of the current parties can be trusted

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[–] Carmakazi@lemmy.world 79 points 1 day ago (4 children)

There isn't going to be another government or another free election until the current regime is put to the sword.

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[–] GuyFawkes@midwest.social 35 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Start by sending a handful of Republican Senators and Congressfolk to El Salvador.

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 37 points 1 day ago (1 children)
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