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[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 34 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Nice! I've been vegan for 25 years, so no longer the best judge of "just like cheese", but I'm stoked at the improvements since I vegan.

[–] moody 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Never been vegan, but would love to see vegan alternatives that are as good (subjectively) as real cheeses. I do try to make an effort to reduce my animal-based food consumption, but cheese is really hard for me to leave behind.

[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's a big sticking point for many, and I felt the same way making the transition from vegetarian to vegan. In the end, I found I didn't miss it as much as I thought I would, but that's just my experience.

I appreciate your sentiments, and your efforts to limit your consumption. I will always applaud someone who eats a vegan diet 5 or 6 days out of 7. If everyone could manage something like that, it would make a huge difference :)

[–] zergtoshi@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

And I appreciate your non-dogmatic point of view as you hit the nail on the head - having a vegan diet 7 days of the week for sure has a bigger (positive) impact on the world than having a vegan diet on 5 or 6 days.
But even 1 day a week is better than 0 days.
We mustn't allow 'perfect' being the enemy of 'good'.

[–] moody 3 points 1 month ago

Agreed. I make an effort, though I'm not gonna pretend that I've ever been shamed for not being vegan, despite what the stereotypes suggest.

[–] streetfestival@lemmy.ca 31 points 1 month ago

Wow, really cool. Sounds like great progress for the industry. And it's Canadian >.<! Good on AOL for covering this, although they should have used the "grilled cheese pull apart" test for the headline photo (copied below).

The research study was published in Physics of Fluids: https://pubs.aip.org/aip/pof/article-abstract/37/1/011913/3330660/Impact-of-protein-sources-on-the-functionality-of

Here's a popular press summary from the journal's publisher: Just as Gouda: Improving the Quality of Cheese Alternatives

[–] Soulg@ani.social 12 points 1 month ago

Cool development and I'm sure it's good, but ain't no way it tastes like dairy cheese.

[–] RBWells@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago (7 children)

Cheese is so interesting because it's cultured, with different bacteria that make it all taste different. It's more like a living thing. Vegan cheese is the stuff of school pizzas. Pasteurized Processed Cheese Food.

Still interesting, and happy for vegans, but coconut oil and pea protein made into an ultraprocessed cheese food doesn't sound healthier than cheese.

[–] LimpRimble@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 month ago

doesn’t sound healthier than cheese

It is, for the cows.

[–] dandelion@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 month ago

fair, but it's not like the high saturated fat and high cholesterol levels in dairy based cheese make it really that "healthy" by comparison ... meanwhile, lots of vegans are motivated more by not supporting the poor treatment of cows or by environmental concerns, both of which are solved by vegan cheese.

[–] irish_link@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Ohh wo/man I totally agree. I just can't eat the real stuff. I blow up, not just in my digestion but physically I have terrible whole body inflammation.

I like to have fake pizza once or twice a month. This will make it better (once i read the article and taste it).

[–] Rodneyck@lemm.ee 4 points 1 month ago

There are plenty of molded/aged cheeses in higher-end vegan markets, and do-it-yourselfers.

[–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Sounds like you've only ever had bad vegan cheese...

[–] qevlarr@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

There's a lot of it, so yeah. If vegan cheese reaches the point where it's basically indistinguishable from dairy cheese, a lot more people will become vegan. Maybe price is also a factor but most vegan cheese is plain bad in my experience

[–] Skydancer@pawb.social 3 points 1 month ago

Price is a factor, but so is brand recognition. Daiya is a great example that's carried everywhere because it's been around so long but is awful.

If you can find Miyoko's, that was started by the chef that popularized actual cultured (meaning produced by a bacterial process like animal milk based cheeses) vegan cheese, and is an entirely different experience.

[–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago

Yeah, it can be quite hit-and-miss. Some vegan cheese tastes like fat and stinky feet. But on the other hand, I've had sliced cheese and cream cheese, which I liked better than the original.

Main limiting factor at that point was the selection. I could get one or two kinds of good sliced cheeses, not ten+ like you might get for the non-vegan side of things. But yeah, I branched out more towards legumes and nuts, then the selection is good, too.

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If you think most cheeses are not purely industrial foods you're fooling yourself.

[–] RBWells@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I've made cheese, though, it just seems more like food than the ones made from oil. Still - I know this is the vegan sub, and I cook for vegans quite often, I am happy for y'all that it's getting better tasting, for sure.

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I've made home made vegan cheese too. The ingredients were cashews, water and salt. My point is that the stuff we buy in the supermarket is very far from the home made stuff.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You think cheese is HEALTHY? You gonna die young.

[–] RBWells@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Too late for that!

[–] bdot@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

i will take exactly ONE “no thank you bite”

[–] daskye@fedia.io 1 points 1 week ago

<3 I love vegan cheese