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[–] Jimmycakes@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

On the left is just a list of people they are willing to accept money from

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago

No political orientation gives you unlimited time to clean the bathrooms.

[–] guillem@aussie.zone 54 points 1 week ago (4 children)

And they will stop welcoming any of those if it benefits them financially.

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[–] throwawayacc0430@sh.itjust.works 49 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Radical Libertarian Capitalism

Everyone is equal, as long as you have the money.

No money? DIE, MOTHERFUCKER!

[–] Rozauhtuno@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] arrow74@lemm.ee 14 points 1 week ago

I always did like how the Ferengi found human slavery abhorrent.

But also didn't really acknowledge that their women were effectively slaves.

[–] dan69@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (5 children)

As long as you can pay you can pee..

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[–] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 32 points 1 week ago

Left was posted by the staff. Right was posted by the owner.

[–] TheKingBee@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

Tell me you've never had to clean blood of the walls of a stall in a toilet at your minimum wage retail job without telling me you've never had to clean blood off the wall of a stall in the toilet at your minimum wage retail job.

I get the joke, i agree with the message but I also agree with the bathroom being for customers only...

It's a mistake you only make once, they just need to use the bathroom and you feel like an asshole for turning them away so you let them use it and the next thing you know you're cleaning fucking blood off the fucking wall.

[–] naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 6 days ago

You know that isolated hostility is the end point of trying to protect yourself from harm right?

Being a good person and practicing pro social beliefs means opening yourself up to the possibility of being taken advantage of. It is ludicrous to hurt everyone, or at least an entire class of people, because of the occasional actions of some.

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 6 days ago

Tell me you’ve never had to clean blood of the walls of a stall in a toilet at your minimum wage retail job without telling me you’ve never had to clean blood off the wall of a stall in the toilet at your minimum wage retail job.

I have. I did it and if things go well, I'll be hired and it will be part of my job.

I've cleaned blood, piss, shit, vomit, cum. It wasn't pleasant. It won't be pleasant when I have to do it for minimum wage again.

I'm a broke bastard. I like being able to take a shit like any human being. Human beings should be able to take a shit without expecting to pay markups on concessions and things.

Why do we put a price on the human need of removing waste? The workers are already paid. The toilets are used no matter who uses them. The things must be cleaned already.

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[–] LarmyOfLone@lemm.ee 21 points 1 week ago

Neoliberalism is the belief in inequality based on class.

Fascism is the belief in inequality based on identity.

No wonder, it's just a small hop.

[–] AcidicBasicGlitch@lemm.ee 21 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Why is it on a liberal private business owner to provide a public bathroom? This just seems like the myth people use to show why liberalism is either phony or unsustainable.

It should be on the local government/community to provide public options.

[–] naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)

"I support trans people having safe access to bathrooms"

"may I safely access this bathroom?"

"Are you poor?"

[–] AcidicBasicGlitch@lemm.ee 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

That is like the weirdest attempt at an argument I've ever heard. Somehow we have to make even this stupid fucking discussion about trans people and bathrooms bc apparently that is all some people obsess about. JFC.

Do you let every stranger that asks to use your bathroom, use your bathroom? No.

Do you let people who are guests in your house use your bathroom? Yes.

Would a customer be the equivalent of a guest in a business? Yes.

Do you consider trans people to be humans like anyone else? Yes.

Simple. Mind fucking blown. 🤯

[–] naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Um the sign is literally about safety for all people with genders specifically mentioned. Bathrooms in public are relatively dangerous for trans people, hence the comment. Like if you want safety and respect for people, and then refuse to help them, you actually just want someone else to sort out the world you're making more dangerous.

Also literally yes I do, I live near a bushwalk exit that's popular, and have had a few knocks on the door by people busting or thirsty and I do help them because I'm not a horrible human who wants to watch someone shit themselves or pass out from heatstroke. What else could I do? If I wont who will. Would it be nice if the council put in a tap, bins, and a dunny? sure. In the meantime I will treat people who ask for a trivial bit of assistance with the decency and respect they deserve.

[–] courval@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

But they took the public options away due to private lobbying from big business so that the only places you can be comfortable in public are places of consumption. No public toilets, no public water sources, no drinking in public. Basically we're left with no escape to consumerism. Economic liberalism in the form of legalised bribes aka "lobbying" is to blame for this.

[–] Flatworm7591@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 week ago (10 children)

In the context of this meme, centrist liberalism is claiming progressive credentials on the left pane, and showing its true face on the right pane. Liberalism is all about private property. So no matter what they say about caring about these issues, if you're not paying you aren't welcome. Liberal values are phony because money always trumps them. Look at how Dems treated paying customer Israel vs non-paying folks in Gaza.

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[–] Commiunism@beehaw.org 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That's pretty much rainbow capitalism, which is but a small part of liberalism.

In reality, liberalism is much worse when it comes to things like human rights, singing it's praises and championing democracy and freedom while committing/supporting atrocities, like Bill Clinton administration's war crimes, Tony Blair's invasion of Iraq, EU's anti-immigration barbarism, Trudeau's arms sales, current Israel Palestine genocide, etc.

It's baffling how many regular people call themselves liberal while not seeing the contradictions/utter hypocrisy. Even on ideological level, you can't support things such as equality and free-market economics, they directly go against one another.

[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemm.ee 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

like Bill Clinton administration's war crimes

Not defending liberalism, especially the Third Way perspective popularized by the Clinton's. However, when you are talking about Clinton and war crimes are you talking about the war in Bosnia?

Imo intervening in an ethnic cleansing is just about the only decent reason to go to war in the first place. There were plenty of war crimes going around in Bosnia, but the vast majority of them were happening to the Bosniaks, whom the Clinton administration was aiding.

[–] SallyStrange@beehaw.org 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Clinton bombed a pharmaceutical factory on the suspicion that it was being used to manufacture bioweapons. Even if it were, it was still a war crime. But it probably wasn't, and many suspected Clinton of deliberately killing people to distract from his infidelity scandal. That's what most people think of when they hear "Clinton war crimes."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Shifa_pharmaceutical_factory

But yeah, in Bosnia, he said he was helping genocide victims, but one way he did this is bombing civilian targets.

https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/06/30/bill-clintons-serbian-war-atrocities-exposed-in-new-indictment/

[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemm.ee 1 points 6 days ago

Clinton bombed a pharmaceutical factory on the suspicion that it was being used to manufacture bioweapons

Ahh, yeah definitely a shitty thing to do. I don't know if war crime is the best descriptor, more of a crime against humanity imo.

but one way he did this is bombing civilian targets.

This article is atrociously biased, to the point where it's blatantly ahistorical. The attempt to "both sides" the war crimes committed by the Serbs and Bosniaks is just immoral. It would be the equivalent of equating war crimes committed by the Palestinians with the genocidal reaction of Israel.

To my knowledge there was no intentional targeting of civilians in Kosovo, there was a refugee column that was mistakenly bombed, which NATO took responsibility for .

I don't really know much about this publisher, but I would be wary of any "leftist" publisher who back articles originally written for a libertarian rag.

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 18 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I don't understand this meme.

[–] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 75 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

"This is a safe space for all vulnerable groups (that pay money to us)

[–] the_abecedarian@piefed.social 26 points 1 week ago

the subtext of the meme is: liberals pay lip service to "supporting" marginalized groups, but refuse to help when their own interests are on the line (e.g. can people who aren't customers use the bathroom in the store? no, because making money comes first)

[–] NewDark 24 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Liberals ultimately agree that capitalism is the way to structure society (but make it inclusive and give people rights, etc etc), while the secondary sign shows exactly where that inclusive line is drawn.

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 8 points 1 week ago

Liberals ultimately believe that the free market is all that’s needed.

Neoliberals think the free market just need a slight nudge.

Liberalism is closer to what the right wing turned the word Libertarian into today.

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[–] Smorty@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

restrooms must be a right... ;(

[–] fxomt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Food, housing and fair wages (especially to foreign workers) aren't even rights to these people, i highly doubt they're going to consider that

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[–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 week ago

Liberalism is the closest thing to an ideology capitalists will ever have.

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Is this really a definition of liberalism or is it the definition of being liberal in a capitalist society?

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[–] robocall@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

Do they welcome a union?

[–] OccamsRazer@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I saw a yard sign once that said "all are welcome here", right next to the "no trespassing" sign. Struck me as contradictory and made me curious what it meant to them.

[–] lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com 31 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

“all are welcome here”, right next to the “no trespassing” sign

I read that as "I don't care who you are or what you look like, just make sure you're invited first"

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