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That's like saying "I'm pro-life and anti-gun control".

Oh. Wait.

Edit: Guy confirmed that he is, indeed, pro-life and anti-gun control.

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[–] KeenFlame@feddit.nu 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm pro bike and anti bike lane.

The entire street should be for bikes only

[–] Noodle07@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

That's what happens in my city, people hella mad about it

[–] Phegan@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

You lie. That's how. They aren't pro bike they are just saying it to make their point

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

Some of them are against bike lanes because they say it gives drivers a false sense of entitlement and cyclists a false sense of security when they're supposed to be sharing the road.

That doesn't sound like this guy, though.

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Pro-life + anti-gun control = pro-birth.

[–] squaresinger@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Or in other words: He's pro after-birth abortions.

[–] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Birth them all; let school shooters sort them out

[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

"Solve school shootings by birthing backup-children."

[–] Bieren@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago

Got a friend this way. He hates bikes on the road. And yells to get on the greenways etc. Cause slow his lifted f150, that he needs to commute and get groceries, down for 30 seconds. The bike then get on the greenway and then he bitches they go too fast there.

Also he weighs about 300 lbs and doesn’t work out in any way.

[–] const_void@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 day ago

That's obvious. He pays to use Twitter.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 5 points 1 day ago

This is funny to me because the one time I was in NYC, the streets were empty but the sidewalks were congested as fuck.

[–] angelmountain@feddit.nl 43 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Bike lanes suck. Separated bike paths are much better. Or just streets without cars at all, no need for a bike lane if there are no cars.

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

In this paradise, where are the Rollerbladers?

[–] 13igTyme@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Rollerblade lane.

Separate but equal. /s

4 wheels bad.

2 wheels good.

8 wheels, mmmm OK, over there please.

[–] JargonWagon@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Nah nah nah, rollerblade path. No need for a rollerblade lane of there are no bikes.

[–] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

In this paradise, where are the pogo sticks?

[–] 13igTyme@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Next to the unicycle path.

[–] blargle@sh.itjust.works 91 points 3 days ago (2 children)

They're still on xitter, and they paid for blue checks. Who cares what opinion they hold on literally anything?

[–] Owlboi@lemm.ee 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

please call it Twitter. just to piss elon off. Xitter sounds even worse than X honestly

[–] stevedice@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago

I read it as "shitter" and it makes me chuckle. Is that not how you're supposed to say it?

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[–] hildegarde@lemmy.blahaj.zone 76 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

I'm anti bike lane. Roads should be for bikes and pedestrians. Cars should get their own single separated lane on the occasional road.

Bike lanes are car infrastructure. They are not needed unless you consider the entire street to be for cars by default.

Also dave is an idiot. Maximum capacity would be a cycle and transit only street because those have the highest throughput per lane. Cars are incredibly space inefficient.

[–] destructdisc@lemmy.world 29 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Slight disagreement there. Streets are for pedestrians and bikes and trams and the occasional car (in a dedicated car lane). Roads (as in large arterial roads in very limited areas, meant for fast travel between faraway zones when trains are inconvenient, or highways between cities) can be considered as intended for cars, and even those should have pretty good space dedicated to bike lanes and pedestrian sidewalks.

[–] stevedice@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Given that a car is a priviledge in most (all?) of the world, I'd argue there should be absolutely zero car-only infrastructure because it creates second class citizens for which some parts of the street are inaccesible.

Think of it this way, would you support the creation of a sidewalk in which only people who own a 50k ring can go?

[–] Tlaloc_Temporal@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

A bus in a kind of car. Biking 30km in one go is a bit much too.

[–] stevedice@sh.itjust.works 1 points 22 hours ago

I very clearly meant private cars, friend. Come on.

[–] Venator@lemmy.nz 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Relevant not just bikes about the streets in Tokyo that prioritise pedestrians: https://youtu.be/jlwQ2Y4By0U

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 95 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Always check twice whenever someone claims "it's simple math"!

[–] lime@feddit.nu 56 points 3 days ago (1 children)

the simple math supports the idea. the normal math does not.

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[–] jenesaisquoi@feddit.org 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You all need to visit the Netherlands.

[–] LordWiggle@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)

"it's simple math" - read about that expression on Facebook, never actually had math themselves as they were home schooled in creationism and flat earth.

[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Wtf even is simple-math? Arithmetic? Logic? The 2006 Kansas middle-school curricilum?

[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 40 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (5 children)

Vehicular cyclists are the fucking worst. I find that they fall into two groups:

  • "The John Forrester", generally oldhat nerds festooned with side mirrors and blinking lights and fluoro vests who are basically at the point of cosplaying as a car.
  • "The Dentist", young and middle-aged guys with money for whom cycling is purely a sport and nothing else, who annually dump $20K into prebuilt bikes and clothing like it's nothing.

Either way they're almost 100% athletic white men who for some reason never picked up on the fact that cycling in a car culture is a near-perfect analogy / example of what it's like to be a marginalized minority and a first-hand demonstration of privilege. Instead they're defenders of the status quo - By way of their own athletic, gender, or monetary privilege - All the way to their bloody meat crayon deaths. They're that one asshole who shows up to the community board meeting about a new bike lane that will make cycling accessible for children, the elderly, and any person in between who is more risk-averse or less athletic than they are in order to speak against it "As a cyclist". Because to them battling for your life in traffic, being on the bleeding edge of death, breathing in truck exhaust from the shoulder of a stroad is a gatekeeping measure. They're masochistic elites, they rake pride in the danger that they put themselves in so much that they'd deny accessibility to anyone else unwilling to accept that danger.

Gordon Ramsey is an example of someone in the dentist group. A few years ago he very nearly got meat crayoned by a car while cycling in the US. He didn't provide the details of the crash but it was obvious from his injuries that he'd been hit from the side by a car or truck and likely went over the hood. His public plea in revealing this wasn't that the US needs to make roads safer for cyclists, or more accessible to people who don't have a group of equally wealthy friends to peloton around a foreign country with, maybe separating cars from cyclists so that the two may never conflict. His one and only adamant request was that we all wear a helmet. Cycling is wasted on these myopic asshats.

Oh bother, I've gone and ranted again.

[–] stevedice@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Have you been outside of the first world recently? Here in Mexico, cyclists are mostly old people with backpacks filled with tools on their way to fix a sink.

[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 day ago

No, but I'm speaking specifically about US culture. Sorry, I know this community is international and so I should have stated that.

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[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Either way they're almost 100% athletic white men

Someone has never been to Europe.

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[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Cause and effect. When you make cycling a challenge, the only cyclists will be the most radical/motivated. If we had the infrastructure to make cycling safe and easy, many more casual cyclists would exist. Europe proves that

“If you build it they will come”

As it is, building it doesn’t even work so well because we are so starved for opportunity that so many “bike paths” are overwhelmed by pedestrians that also never had options

[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 day ago

Yup, it definitely has snowball potential in either direction. Build more infrastructure, incentivize more advocates. Build less infrastructure, incentivize more privileged subcultures.

[–] 9488fcea02a9@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Hey, i fall into the dentist group! But i totally advocate for bike lanes, and i'm not white...

There are dozens of us at the local critical mass ride!!! I make it a point to show up in my ridiculous spandex gear to show people the dentists aren't all assholes. Also, good spandex is really comfy.

Why the hate?? Yeah i sunk a lot of money into my hobby, but thats what people do. People spend tens of thousands on camera gear, gaming rigs, etc. Why hate on others' expensive hobbies?

I'm actually not that rich, but living car free and biking every day has allowed me to allocate a lot of money towards my hobbies. Cars are a total money sink... 10yrs ago it was around $6k/year TCO. I'm sure it's more now...

You should put an additional qualifier on your dentist description.... Carries their $20k bike on top of their $80k SUV. Drives 2 hours out of the city just to ride around for an hour...

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[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 50 points 3 days ago (1 children)
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[–] Nefara@lemmy.world 26 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Hey I get it though, bike lanes are expensive new infrastructure. So pro-bike, anti bike lane just means all roads are now for bikes, cars not allowed. Ban cars and you don't need expensive new infrastructure! Sounds great!

[–] supercriticalcheese@lemmy.world 30 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Ahh a classic vehicle cyclist!

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