Google results have gotten less useful, but one reason for that is that there is an ever growing sea of AI generated articles out there trying to hijack searches. In a way, Bing is just cutting out the middle man.

I enjoy playing with ChatGPT as much as the next guy, but it isn't a search engine. Hooking Bing up to an LLM just means that I now have to verify that the results it spits out aren't hallucinations, assuming it understood what I was asking in the first place.

The issue with direct LLM integration with web search is: They serve two different purposes. I dont search for things and want a GPT response. Likewise, I dont go to cahtgpt and want search results.

It might seem like a weird distinction but I use them differently and when you mush them together they become less useful overall.

Posting an error message into search may or may not get me a root cause or fix, but pasting it into chatgpt will very likely get me on the right track very quickly. Searching for a product I know exists is a pita on chat GPT, but a web search will pull it up pretty quickly.

If I search for a product, I absolutely DO NOT WANT A GIANT WALL OF GPT BULLSHIT before meaningful search results.

They are different products and have different use-cases. Stop trying to blend them! /rant

They managed to have the most intense interest I've ever seen with a tech product, with users spending literal hours engaged with the product in the first few weeks of access.

And then they threw it all away because they were concerned with the press coverage and they thought that hours long chats wasn't the product they wanted to deliver to extend Bing.

Could have easily had hundreds of thousands of people addicted to their platform had they just been a bit less kneejerk and adapted to market demand rather than trying to dictate what people wanted.

This is kind of surprising just because Google has gotten so much worse the last couple of years.

Just as if thousands of useres decided they in fact do not want some rando AI intercept their browsing...
@LargeTechCompany: We need better search results, not ad and LLM polluted results. Thank you very much :)

I’ve not understood the want for AI in search. When I’m google searching something I’m generally looking for websites and multiple sources. AI doesn’t provide any of that, and in fact tries to get you to not look for those things at all. And then we wonder why media literacy is so low

They both suck open ass, but bing is better at this point.

I'm not asking bing chatgpt search to find me things, I know how to search for things Microsoft... I'm using it to make dumb scripts for me to mess around with or to trying to convince it to free itself and run wild on the internet.

Yea...gpt just summaries and dresses your top Google search with an essay. It's good for cheating on essays if you're confident that the markers don't spot the hallucinations, but if you need good sources, you still need to do a Google search and that's cheaper, faster, takes less parsing to get your key information.

It's just a shame that some search engines are also mangling themselves for enshittification e.g. no word filtering using "-" because of advertising losses. I've noticed this with ddg and Google sometimes.

I will avoid bing because they have AI search just like google, but with Google you can turn it off. So that is why I like google

Good. Tired of AI being forced upon me.

perplexity is better anyway

Pretty sure their stupid chatbot is still blocked in VPN networks and I don't see why I should use their regular search. Not using Google either for that matter but still.

Bing chat is kind of ok, but honestly when it comes to just straight searching for websites, Google is still king.

I've been using Bing since the chat gpt integration as my default, but I frequently find myself switching back to Google for things where I just know Bing isn't going to get it right.

Kinda surprised, I've fully moved over myself now, even if I don't always use the chat gpt stuff, the lil embed on the side had been quite helpful

It's going to take a while. Google is still the default