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The case was later settled in arbitration.

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[–] Pnut@lemm.ee 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

How many degrees does the collective of "The Offspring" have? It's been decades and I keep finding out that these are highly qualified people who went back to what I'm doing.

[–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

I did a deep dive into their Wikipedia pages, and these are the only two members where it’s mentioned. The band history is dramatic af though, and someone documented it very well, if you’re ever stuck for something to read in a waiting room

[–] d00phy@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago
[–] subtext@lemmy.world 160 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I could imagine that juror to be slightly biased toward the defendant once they had been saved by the defendant. No wonder the judge had to call a mistrial.

[–] zaphod@sopuli.xyz 124 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Afterwards the judge ruled a mistrial to avoid biases from any of the potential jurors who saw him save a life, and rescheduled his trial for a later date.

Literally in the article.

[–] HowAbt2morrow@futurology.today 58 points 2 days ago

You actually read the article on here? Respect!

[–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 26 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, I couldn’t fit all of the relevant info in the title without making it incomprehensible

[–] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 day ago (2 children)

There is a text body for summaries and such.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There's also the article, you lazy bones

I'm not here to read articles. I'm here to read headlines and complain about imaginary scenarios I scared myself into trough just going with my first emotional response...and I'm all out of headlines.

[–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

And I used it

[–] roofuskit@lemmy.world 31 points 2 days ago (1 children)

All of the jurors should be assumed to be biased after that. A mistrial is the right thing to do.

[–] Nastybutler@lemmy.world 76 points 2 days ago

Gotta keep em separated

[–] RBWells@lemmy.world 51 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Fucking overachievers, lol! I want to be a doctor. No, a rockstar.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Leave it to a drummer to specialize in gynecology

[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 day ago

well as the old joke goes

"what has three legs and a cunt on top?"

"a drum stool"

[–] Mobiuthuselah@lemm.ee 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] oce@jlai.lu 3 points 1 day ago

Idk the band much, but I was curious, found this guy.

Paul Bruce Dickinson (born 7 August 1958) is an English singer who is best known as the lead vocalist of the heavy metal band Iron Maiden. Dickinson has performed in the band across two stints, from 1981 to 1993 and from 1999 to the present day. He is known for his wide-ranging operatic vocal style and energetic stage presence.
...
Outside his career in music, Dickinson has pursued a number of other activities. He undertook a career as a commercial pilot for Astraeus Airlines, which led to a number of media-reported ventures such as captaining Iron Maiden's converted charter aeroplane, Ed Force One, during their world tours. Following Astraeus' closure, in 2012 he created his own aircraft maintenance and pilot training company, Cardiff Aviation. Dickinson presented his own radio show on BBC Radio 6 Music from 2002 to 2010, and has also hosted television documentaries, authored novels and film scripts, created a beer with Robinsons Brewery and competed at fencing internationally. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_Dickinson

[–] toynbee@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Didn't Nickelback make a song about this?

[–] hakunawazo@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

I even cut my hair and... uhm... keep my name.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 63 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

"Screening jurors for telltale signs of an impending heart attack is the oldest trick in the book!" - Saul Goodman

[–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 74 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I knew the lead singer had a phd in molecular biology, but how good a story would this be to tell at a party? He must have felt so vindicated.

[–] entwine413@lemm.ee 139 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

The judge didn't let him go because he did a good thing. A mistrial isn't a not guilty verdict. It's basically just saying, "This trial is fucked beyond repair, try again."

The judge ordered a mistrial because the other jurors would likely be swayed by him saving another juror's life and rule in his favor despite evidence of his guilt.

The case went to arbitration after that.

[–] cogman@lemmy.world 34 points 2 days ago

Exactly.

He could have seen another trial, but it'd be with a new jury.

Arbitration is usually faster and cheaper than setting up a brand new trial.

[–] protist@mander.xyz 26 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This was a civil trial, "guilty" was never an option

[–] entwine413@lemm.ee 6 points 1 day ago

Regardless, a mistrial doesn't mean the defendant is off the hook.

[–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I would absolutely consider ending a lawsuit with a negotiation instead of a negative judgment to be a win. Obviously the jury pool would have been biased in favor of the doctor, but they could have requested a new jury.

[–] roofuskit@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (2 children)

That's was up to the plaintiff, not the judge. As it was a civil suit it was probably too expensive them to pay to panel another jury and then re-argue the case. Lawyers are expensive.

[–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (3 children)

That's was up to the plaintiff, not the judge.

Yes, and their position was worsened by him being a good doctor. That feels like a win to me.

[–] entwine413@lemm.ee 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Not to the plaintiff if he was actually guilty of medical malpractice.

Saving someone's life doesn't mean you can't commit malpractice.

[–] protist@mander.xyz 1 points 1 day ago

But none of us knows anything about the details or merits of that case, so...

[–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Correct, but I’m evaluating this from the defendant’s perspective. If you want to consider this a neutral development until you’re able to evaluate the facts of the case, that’s your prerogative. If you find them, I’d be interested in reading them.

[–] qarbone@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

From what I could read, he just used a defib kit. Would his ability to ease symptoms of a heart attack have any bearing on his fitness to do whatever the hell gynelogical oncology entails?

I guess it doesn't have to, in fact. It just has to feel like it does to win over a selection of people who don't really care amd wouldn't know better.

[–] RebekahWSD@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Isn't gynelogical oncology just like, cancers relating to women's health? So uterine cancer or the like.

[–] qarbone@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

That sounds reasonably likely.

[–] roofuskit@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You're assuming it wasn't his insurance company that pushed to settle to avoid the costs of another trial.

[–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

I’ve worked in insurance companies for long term bodily injury claims, they wanted that from the start. The mistrial allowed them to get it.

[–] Sc00ter@lemm.ee 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You can sue to include layers/court fees. And most of the time, these types of layers dont do it for base fees, they do it for a % of the settlement. If theyre going after malpractice, they have insurance to pay that out. I cant really imagine the cost of court would sway them against going back to trial.

[–] roofuskit@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's a malpractice suit so the insurance company was making the calls.

[–] Sc00ter@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Insurance is on the side of the defendant. The plantif determines if they go back to court. Insuance has nothing to do with that

[–] roofuskit@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It does if they make a settlement offer to keep it out of court a second time.

[–] Sc00ter@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago

They likely made a settlement offer the first time too. The easily could have made a worse settlement offer the second time because court was going so well, and the plantif knew they might not get what they were asking for.

We dont know

[–] IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago

Malpractice suites happen to good doctors all the time. And for good reason. Nobody can be perfect and mistakes will happen. Typically in most cases a mistake did happen and the doctor is just trying to minimize insurance impacts. They know they fucked up and usually feel like shit but can't have a real conversation because of legal reasons.

Doesn't surprise me at all. Only a molecular biologist could up with lyrics like "I may dumb, but I'm not a dweeb".