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1,800+ 'No Kings' Rallies Planned Across US as Trump Deploys Military to Crush Protests
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LEAVE YOUR PHONES AT HOME!
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Can you elaborate on this? I want to know what the concerns are.
Obviously, they can track you with cell towers, and there's the legitimate risk that they're setting up stingray cells to intercept or even disable communications. All of that sucks, and I wish it weren't a problem.
However, if I'm participating in a non-violent protest, I do take a bit of a "flood them with noise" attitude by just being there. I also want to be able to contact my group in case we get separated. Burner phones feel a bit like overkill for what should be a non-violent protest.
And yes, I know there are problems with my "nothing to hide, nothing to fear" attitude. I'm not trying to advocate for that. I want more information so that I know why I should be worried.
Let’s say you go to a non violent protest with perfectly good intentions. You bring your phone to communicate and take pictures/videos.
Someone in the crowd gets rowdy, or has an agenda to make the protest look violent. They throw a rock at a cop, or a Molotov on a car. The cops gather cell data, and now you’re a person of interest in a riot or, lately, a terrorist act. You could have booked it as soon as you heard the commotion. But the phone proved you were there, and it’s gonna be a fight to prove you did nothing wrong.
It is disappointing to be reminded that "innocent until proven guilty" is not the shield we were taught it was.
That only applies for the rich and powerful, not you or me.
Walkie talkies only :)
Be prepared for shit to hit the fan
The US national guard has a dark history when it comes to murdering innocent peaceful protesters and then still managing to murder innocent people whose crime it was "happened to be walking by"
Edit: just to clarify; the murderers walk free to this day, a judge decided it was okay to murder innocent students
Edit 2: reading this, WTF is it with Americans in gun fights just randomly shooting at everything and everyone? Are these such bad marksmen that they hit passerbys? We're they just so scared they shot at everything that moved, even though everything was peaceful and they were the only ones who had the guns? Did they purposely shot at the passerbys, out of sheer evil? I mean, how is this explained away?
If you look at the map, it's pretty significant the number. Also, there are some in states you wouldn't think there would be any.
Also, there are some in states you wouldn’t think there would be any.
Every state has a significant percentage of non-fascists in it. The notion of "red states" vs. "blue states" is nothing but a lie / artifact of voting district boundaries; the real dichotomy is red rural areas vs. blue cities.
The one at my capitol is a swing and a miss for me. They're going to have a family friendly drag show and carnival games... Cute I guess...?
I'm not in any way against drag shows or community building events but this moment feels serious and it feels like the organizers have lost the plot on this one.
Protesting evil with wholesome family fun is an interesting idea. Imagine the absurdity of photos of over-reacting fully armed soldiers watching over a street carnival that is protesting the evil path that America is on.
May day massacre was just union workers having a picnic with their families. Making protests family inclusive works
They’re going to have a family friendly drag show and carnival games
I think that's a great idea, it gets the kids involved early in the democratic process. Also, whatever gets people out there.
I'm not ruling out out that it might actually be me who's lost the plot and I'm just being too small minded/optically paranoid.
Hopefully law enforcement and anti-first amendment alt-right less likely to target family fun. I think it's a good idea - it's really just about getting people there.
I really like that you take a step back and consider the possibility that you might be wrong. A skill so many of us are severely lacking.
You are raising an important point. If protests are too "family friendly" you end up with more of a public festival and the state knowing everyone will go home without issues and doesn't have to take the protest seriously.
Protests need to be large and they need to have aspects for every level of activity and escalation-readiness. If they are only "family friendly" then nothing will come out of it. If they are only "black block" they will lack the mass necessary.
I wouldn't take my kids to an event given the current climate in the US. Some bad stuff is about to go down somewhere, some Tiananmen Square shit.
I'd go myself.
If you don't feel like your kids are safe, then don't. It really depends on the city or town. There are towns in Washington that could absolutely have drag events and carnival games and there wouldn't be any more likelihood of things going wrong than any other event. Seattle is a target city, you might want to think about it. But then again, it's mostly been peaceful except when cops are cruel.
when cops are cruel.
So, all the time?
Fascists tend to take extra damage from being mocked and belitled, I think this works for that
"No Kings" and it's framing sound less tame and vague than "Hands Off" did, so here's hoping.
Honestly it’s way catchier than 50501 lol. Gets right down to the essence of what America is.