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1,800+ 'No Kings' Rallies Planned Across US as Trump Deploys Military to Crush Protests (www.commondreams.org)

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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Be prepared for shit to hit the fan

The US national guard has a dark history when it comes to murdering innocent peaceful protesters and then still managing to murder innocent people whose crime it was "happened to be walking by"

Edit: just to clarify; the murderers walk free to this day, a judge decided it was okay to murder innocent students

Edit 2: reading this, WTF is it with Americans in gun fights just randomly shooting at everything and everyone? Are these such bad marksmen that they hit passerbys? We're they just so scared they shot at everything that moved, even though everything was peaceful and they were the only ones who had the guns? Did they purposely shot at the passerbys, out of sheer evil? I mean, how is this explained away?

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

Not sure what your edit is regarding, but LEOs in instances like this are just going to shoot and blame the victims that get hit. “Shouldn’t have been there anyway” or something, even if they’re literally just innocent bystanders or the bullet went through an house and killed them in bed.

[–] noxypaws@pawb.social 1 points 11 hours ago

We're they just so scared they shot at everything that moved, even though everything was peaceful and they were the only ones who had the guns?

Yes, this is specifically what US cops are trained to do. They have it drilled into their heads that their top priority is going home safe, no matter what. And it's often taught specifically by Israeli fucks specifically to US cops.

[–] FenrirIII@lemmy.world 48 points 2 days ago (2 children)

LEAVE YOUR PHONES AT HOME!

[–] spizzat2@lemmy.zip 12 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Can you elaborate on this? I want to know what the concerns are.

Obviously, they can track you with cell towers, and there's the legitimate risk that they're setting up stingray cells to intercept or even disable communications. All of that sucks, and I wish it weren't a problem.

However, if I'm participating in a non-violent protest, I do take a bit of a "flood them with noise" attitude by just being there. I also want to be able to contact my group in case we get separated. Burner phones feel a bit like overkill for what should be a non-violent protest.

And yes, I know there are problems with my "nothing to hide, nothing to fear" attitude. I'm not trying to advocate for that. I want more information so that I know why I should be worried.

[–] Aaron@lemmy.nz 8 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

There is no noise anymore. They have the computing power to sort through everything caught in the dragnet now.

[–] the_mighty_kracken@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

When I went to my local Hands Off protest in April, the crowd were on either side of a busy street. Should the people in the cars driving by have turned their phones off?

[–] Glitterbomb@lemmy.world 4 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

The computer automatically was able to determine they pinged a mile away 5 minutes ago, and a further mile in the other direction 5 minutes later. They were filtered out before a human was looking at the data.

This happens even when protests aren't happening. This is regular equipment used in traffic surveys conducted by every civil engineer in every county in the country. The surveys are for completely boring reasons like if the intersection signals should turn the left turn signal green before the straight lanes.

Granted the equipment used in these surveys intentionally ditch identifying information. They can gobble up things like Bluetooth hardware addresses from your car or phone as you drive by, and see if that address pops up on the other sensors in the area. That can reliably tell them which direction you turned at an intersection and they can start to see trends in the data.

This type of equipment is used everywhere and can be retooled to zero in on specific people just as easily as it's used for anonymous traffic statistics. Throw in things like stingrays and cell tower tracking and you're fucked.

[–] Pulptastic@midwest.social 3 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I’d believe you if the traffic lights here weren’t so awful, unsafe, and inefficient.

[–] Glitterbomb@lemmy.world 0 points 11 hours ago

Lol fair. Your local PD gets tens of millions of dollars worth of military equipment like APCs every year and they're still not effective either.

[–] Aaron@lemmy.nz 2 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

There's a difference in a single ping nearby and several pings with a protest, also like the LA protests they may have drones overhead to get even more accurate pings

Edit: sorry maybe you weren't being disingenuous if you actually attended one. My apologies if so

[–] the_mighty_kracken@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago

Yes, I did attend a protest, and I don't know everything about technology. Thanks for your answer.

[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago

They will monitor cell phones near protests to identify the agitators. Bring a prepaid burner if you really need a phone.

[–] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 3 points 14 hours ago

In Canada they are also eroding away at privacy rights. I voted for Mark Carney (liberal) specifically to not let the pro-Trump conservatives (Canadian conservatives) in... but then Bill C-2 is introduced (not law yet. Not even close. It is in the first reading. Meaning first ever step in the process) that is trying to grant the police the right to open mail without a warrant at any stage in delivery, as well as to directly monitor a person's internet use without a warrant, and to criminalize (yes criminalize) any cash purchase over 10,000$. Quebec already bans people from carrying more than 3000$ in cash at a time. You can be arrested and charged with intent to commit a crime just for doing that.

I mean fuck me. At this point in time I legit don't give a fuck about money laundering or petty bullshit. This is such a gross violation of privacy that as far as I am concerned they need to repeal all terrorism related laws.

The Canadian government was able to pursue and apprehend and charge international terrorists in the past without any of these laws. Are the making it easier? I doubt it.

[–] Zron@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Let’s say you go to a non violent protest with perfectly good intentions. You bring your phone to communicate and take pictures/videos.

Someone in the crowd gets rowdy, or has an agenda to make the protest look violent. They throw a rock at a cop, or a Molotov on a car. The cops gather cell data, and now you’re a person of interest in a riot or, lately, a terrorist act. You could have booked it as soon as you heard the commotion. But the phone proved you were there, and it’s gonna be a fight to prove you did nothing wrong.

[–] spizzat2@lemmy.zip 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It is disappointing to be reminded that "innocent until proven guilty" is not the shield we were taught it was.

[–] HurlingDurling@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

That only applies for the rich and powerful, not you or me.

[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Walkie talkies only :)

[–] 0xD@infosec.pub 1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Encrypted walkie talkies.

[–] twice_hatch@midwest.social 1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Link please if you know where to get them.

So far I'm only aware of:

Meshtastic, which is text but can be encrypted
amateur radio, which it is illegal to encrypt
CB, which I know little about
Regular store walkie-talkies which I assume are not encrypted

[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 1 points 12 hours ago

Regular store digital walkie talkies come with “encryption” these days, which is essentially an xor encryption on the channel packets. Trivial to decode, but the person has to first know what frequencies you’re on and then what shift you’re using.

So, it won’t stop a government from providing the decoded data as evidence, but it would likely stop anyone from knowing what you’re saying in real-time.

[–] who@feddit.org 23 points 2 days ago

The site shows rallies nearest to you:

https://www.mobilize.us/nokings/

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 33 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If you look at the map, it's pretty significant the number. Also, there are some in states you wouldn't think there would be any.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 33 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Also, there are some in states you wouldn’t think there would be any.

Every state has a significant percentage of non-fascists in it. The notion of "red states" vs. "blue states" is nothing but a lie / artifact of voting district boundaries; the real dichotomy is red rural areas vs. blue cities.

[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago

Also, just because the states are MAJORITY red in polls\voting doesn't mean that none of those places have democrats or other parties there. They are just the minority.

[–] peepwilby@lemmy.zip 27 points 2 days ago (4 children)

The one at my capitol is a swing and a miss for me. They're going to have a family friendly drag show and carnival games... Cute I guess...?

I'm not in any way against drag shows or community building events but this moment feels serious and it feels like the organizers have lost the plot on this one.

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 13 points 1 day ago

Protesting evil with wholesome family fun is an interesting idea. Imagine the absurdity of photos of over-reacting fully armed soldiers watching over a street carnival that is protesting the evil path that America is on.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 41 points 2 days ago (2 children)

They’re going to have a family friendly drag show and carnival games

I think that's a great idea, it gets the kids involved early in the democratic process. Also, whatever gets people out there.

[–] peepwilby@lemmy.zip 20 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

I'm not ruling out out that it might actually be me who's lost the plot and I'm just being too small minded/optically paranoid.

[–] noxypaws@pawb.social 1 points 11 hours ago

you saying that, not just thinking it to yourself but actually commenting with that, makes you so much better than so many people. especially right now when it's so easy to become overwhelmed with cynicism

I think every facet of resistance is important. nonviolent demonstrations, public queer pride, art, putting up stickers and flyers, even more direct tactical stuff. they're all needed at the same time.

[–] WhoIsTheDrizzle@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Hopefully law enforcement and anti-first amendment alt-right less likely to target family fun. I think it's a good idea - it's really just about getting people there.

[–] k0e3@lemmy.ca 22 points 2 days ago

I really like that you take a step back and consider the possibility that you might be wrong. A skill so many of us are severely lacking.

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 5 points 2 days ago

You are raising an important point. If protests are too "family friendly" you end up with more of a public festival and the state knowing everyone will go home without issues and doesn't have to take the protest seriously.

Protests need to be large and they need to have aspects for every level of activity and escalation-readiness. If they are only "family friendly" then nothing will come out of it. If they are only "black block" they will lack the mass necessary.

[–] Diddlydee@feddit.uk 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I wouldn't take my kids to an event given the current climate in the US. Some bad stuff is about to go down somewhere, some Tiananmen Square shit.

I'd go myself.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If you don't feel like your kids are safe, then don't. It really depends on the city or town. There are towns in Washington that could absolutely have drag events and carnival games and there wouldn't be any more likelihood of things going wrong than any other event. Seattle is a target city, you might want to think about it. But then again, it's mostly been peaceful except when cops are cruel.

[–] swab148@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 days ago

when cops are cruel.

So, all the time?

[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 32 points 2 days ago

May day massacre was just union workers having a picnic with their families. Making protests family inclusive works

[–] match@pawb.social 29 points 2 days ago

Fascists tend to take extra damage from being mocked and belitled, I think this works for that

[–] ckmnstr@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago (2 children)

"No Kings" and it's framing sound less tame and vague than "Hands Off" did, so here's hoping.

[–] twice_hatch@midwest.social 1 points 13 hours ago

I don't know what the issue is. They seem to get turnout. I try to show up when I can

[–] MelonYellow@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Honestly it’s way catchier than 50501 lol. Gets right down to the essence of what America is.

[–] swelter_spark@reddthat.com 1 points 14 hours ago

It doesn't really resonate with me. It makes me invision the colonial era. I think "No Dictators" or "No Despots" would be better.

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