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(For people who don't know, BestBuy is an electronics store that is common in the USA)

This would be in c/ActuallyInfuriating if the consumer protections weren't as good, but for now, its just a chargeback away from fixing the problem. (I hope the bank doesn't fucks me over. If they fuck with me, then this is gonna end up in Actually Infuriating). Anyways:

Two days ago, I bought a laptop on BestBuy, but they didn't use UPS like they had in the past, instead they used Doordash πŸ€¦β€β™‚οΈ. When I saw that, I wanted to cancel because I didn't trust fucking Doordash, but it didn't let me cancel, so I just hoped nothing bad happens.

Oh wow, my gut feeling about Doordash actually predicted the future.

So, today it was supppsed to be delivered, I saw the guy park in front of my house for a few minutes (I know that's him because I saw him on the map on the Doordash tracking link), dude walked out, looked my house, went back into his car, drove to the back alleyway (its a neighborhood of single family row-houses), I saw him on my CCTV cameras, he place down the package at a neighbor's back door, take a pickture, then grabbed it place it back in his car, then quickly drove away.

Bruh.

Now I have to make some phonecalls. Thanks, corporate, great fucking job. I hope the CEO of bestbuy can choke on his pay increase.

And if you are wonder why I didn't just go to BestBuy, I live in a car-centric city and I don't have easy access to a car, and carrying big electronics in public transit is just asking for someone to mug you.

At this point, corporations are just in a race to see who gets to be crowned the worst corporation. I mean I hate Amazon and Bezos too, but at least they have a PIN verification system now, so drivers can't just steal stuff, wtf is BestBuy doing? Fuck these shitty corporation.

I wish I could show you the camera footage, but don't wanna get doxed.

Probably not using ~~best~WorstBuy again, not with this bullshit "Doordash" delivery. What an actual disaster.


Btw I tried calling bestbuy, they had a fucking voice-bot thing that refused to let me talk to a human until 48 hours has passed. So I just go straight for the dispute, right? I don't wanna wait 48 hours.


Update: So I got through the bot thing by spamming 0 (or perhaps some other key, I can't be sure), I got to a rep and explained the situation, they said they send a request to BestBuy and BestBuy will do an "investigation" with Doordash, whatever that means, and then refund. They said it's supposed to take 3 bussiness days. Well, today is Thursday, Tomorrow is Friday, so I'm guessing by Tuesday end of the day it's supposed to be resolved?

I mean, I'm giving them 1 week. I'm definitely filing that dispute the Friday next week. Technically I have 60 days to dispute, but I'm gonna stay on the safe side and 1 week is all I'm giving. I'm really wanting to just file right now, but I'm don't want to get banned from BestBuy for life just yet, but if they don't refund within a week, I'm just gonna have to be banned from bestbuy, I guess... πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ

Gonna update later if y'all are still curious in a few days.

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[–] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 41 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

Call the ~~bobbies~~ police and file a report, using your footage as evidence. If it's like here, they won't actually do anything, but you'll need that report to file a dispute with your bank. Best buy will likely try to write you off, but they can't really do that with a proper report backed by evidence.

Edit: sorry. Police.

[–] turtlesareneat@discuss.online 77 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I ordered a laptop from BB for an executive at work, they tried delivering it on a Saturday and texted me about it, offered to deliver elsewhere instead, so I'm like, sure bring it to my house. Then when they get there, it's a third party delivery service (not Doordash but like it) - woman and her boyfriend - hat out looking for a tip. Umm I didn't ASK for some weird tip-based delivery service, I thought they were UPSing that shit. I can't put tips on my corporate card, for laptop delivery fees?! So I looked like the asshole after they booked it across town. Haven't ordered from Best Buy again, what a terrible customer experience.

[–] ThisIsFineDotJpeg@sh.itjust.works 18 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

Its not a food delivery, you shouldn't need to tip, they had too high of an expectation. I searched up some youtube videos, they get an average of $20-$25 an hour if completed within the estimated time. Its similar to Amazon Flex, they get paid real money (the only dowside is, they are considered "independent contractors" therefore no healthcare and other benefits, but otherwise, it pays pretty much like a normal job). In contrast, for food delivery, base pay is $2.5 and you should tip like $5 minimum + $1 per mile distance because otherwise they wouldn't have even minimum wage (or just don't use the service). When they accept an offer, they can already see the estimated total payout, if they don't like the amount (eg: if someone didn't tip for food deliver), they should have just declined it, there is no penalty for rejecting an offer (there is a penalty for accepting, then not completing the order). They saw the whole payout for X number of packages, they shouldn't have accepted if they didn't like it. (Not blaming the drivers btw, just saying they should stand up for themselves and not let Doordash bully them)

[–] verdantbanana@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

there is no penalty for rejecting an offer

acceptance rate will get lowered and lower acceptance rate leads to less offers meaning less pay

What I mean is, declining a lot of offers will not (if they obey their own rules, that is) lead to a deactivation. Getting less offers is the equialent of your boss (at a traditional employment) randomly say "hey btw, your pay for tomorrow will be halved", would you still go to work tomorrow? If you are desparate, maybe, but my point is, at some point, you have to stand up for your self. If you get paid $10/hour, for example, and your just barely have enough to survive, are you gonna work your usual 9-5 shit when you get paid $5/hour for a day?

I'm not blaming drivers, not blaming customers either. Doordash should just outright charge a delivery fee that goes to the driver, instead of this "tipping" BS that confuses both the customer and the drivers, because the vast majority of customers just assumes the drivers get paid like in traditional employment, therefore, believes they don't need to (customarily) tip. The result is, drivers lashing out at customers, when its really Doordash's fault for misleading everyone.

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[–] magnetosphere@fedia.io 10 points 14 hours ago

I didn’t even know this was a thing. I’ll definitely watch out for it.

[–] Kaboom@reddthat.com 170 points 23 hours ago (4 children)

Yeah, dispute the charge and do it quickly. They like to pretend the window to dispute is short

[–] dan@upvote.au 110 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

The standard window for a chargeback with both Visa and MasterCard is 120 days. Don't let the retailers bully you into thinking otherwise.

Usually just threatening to do a chargeback, without actually doing it, is sufficient to get them to comply. Every chargeback costs the company money (usually around $10 to $50 depending on the bank) and time (dealing with the bank, collecting evidence, etc) even if they win the dispute, so they try to resolve issues without the customer involving the bank.

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[–] invertedspear@lemmy.zip 69 points 21 hours ago

When I worked for a bank call center the first question before initiating the dispute/chargeback process is β€œdid you attempt to resolve this with the merchant first?” It is a requirement for doing the dispute. OP needs to clearly say yes, and they prevent it by not letting me speak to a human.

OP should also file a police report immediately. They won’t care, but at least the store can’t accuse OP of not following properof procedures.

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[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 122 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

If you used a credit card you can just chargeback. I'm sure the video is more than enough evidence. Best buy will be out a laptop and the money for it so it's their problem from there.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 84 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Still an ugly pain in the ass for the person who wanted to exchange currency for goods and/or services.

I do find it amusing that Doordash itself seems so blaise about this misuse of their services. Like, what an amazing racket. Get paid by one of the biggest retailers in the country to not-pay drivers so they can not-deliver expensive hardware.

[–] TexasDrunk@lemmy.world 23 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

All of the formerly food delivery apps are like that. I hate it. And if you don't get your stuff often enough or if the restaurant gets your order wrong too often they'll tell you that you're not allowed to get your money back anymore. And if you do a chargeback they won't let you order until you pay them.

And that's fine with me because I stopped using them a few years ago except once in a very great while. But I feel sorry for the people who rely on food delivery because they're disabled or have time constraints due to working half a dozen jobs to make ends meet. I've got a buddy who can't use Uber eats anymore because of this. He's taking care of two kids and holding down a job that has him working far more than he should and he has no executive function and very little time left over.

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

This seems like a very American thing. I've never not received my food. No, the drivers aren't well paid here either.

The one time food did not arrive, it was driver error (similar buildings on one lot) and we contacted the service, got a new order for free (the old one would've been cold already)

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[–] AlphaOmega@lemmy.world 25 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Also file a police report and let the police identify the thief from video. Then they will get to deal with doordash.

[–] ThisIsFineDotJpeg@sh.itjust.works 6 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Also file a police report and let the police identify the thief from video.

Not clear enough to identify. Also, cops are highly unlikely to do anything especially if the refund happens and theb I techically wouldn't be out of pocket for anything (besides the time wasted and mental energy drained on this issue).

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[–] forrcaho@lemmy.world 43 points 21 hours ago (8 children)

Thanks for the warning. I've crossed Best Buy of my list of places to shop.

I stopped shopping at Best Buy in the 1990s when one store asked me to leave. I was writing down some prices so I could do some comparison shopping.

[–] ThisIsFineDotJpeg@sh.itjust.works 8 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

Tbf, in-store is probably fine, just don't do Online buying and delivery unless you have confirmation that they switched back to normal UPS or Fedex or something.

Edit: Amazon also uses independent contractors called Amazon Flex, so if you ever want to buy expensive stuff, you should turn on the OTP verification option.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 16 points 19 hours ago (8 children)

I mean, what else is shady if they can't even get proper deliveries. I would avoid them out of principle.

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[–] hddsx@lemmy.ca 86 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

You should ask Best Buy why a signature was not required

[–] dan@upvote.au 37 points 23 hours ago (5 children)

Even if there was a signature required, the driver could just forge it.

[–] mp3@lemmy.ca 46 points 22 hours ago (10 children)

Some services now send a one-time code to the customers that they have to give to the delivery guy to confirm the item as received instead of a signature.

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[–] Dudewitbow@lemmy.zip 33 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

then you gain the extra potential illegal action due to forgery. so its a game of risk management for the drivers.

[–] ThisIsFineDotJpeg@sh.itjust.works 33 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

then you gain the extra potential illegal action due to forgery. so its a game of risk management for the drivers.

I think you are overestimating how much cops actually care. Most likely, one of these companies just files an insurance claim and that's it. Maybe if the delivery person does it often they'll get fired, but I haven't seen anyone actually going to prison.

[–] Wilco@lemm.ee 15 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Cops and city government are more interested in giving people tickets than they are of solving crime. Implement a new theft enforcement team that takes complaints online with porch video attachments and goes after porch pirates? No ... they dont have the resources.

Put in more traffic cameras to catch speeders and red light runners? Oh yeah, get those criminals.

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[–] UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world 30 points 20 hours ago

Napa auto parts wanted a parts deal with our company but mentioned they will deliver with doordash, so our supervisor just ignored them.

[–] dan@upvote.au 31 points 23 hours ago (7 children)

A lot of companies have moved towards using Uber or Doordash for same day deliveries.

I don't like buying stuff from Amazon, but they're the only company I'd trust for same-day at the moment. They directly employ the delivery drivers (via Amazon Flex) so you don't end up with issues where Doordash and Best Buy blame each other and neither takes full responsibility.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 33 points 23 hours ago (5 children)

They directly employ the delivery drivers

Amazon's legal department would definitely disagree with this gross mischaracterization of the independent contractor relationship they have with their flex "partners"

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[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 12 hours ago

well what bout delivery that isn't same-day then? same-day delivery is completely bonkers to expect

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[–] thesohoriots@lemmy.world 19 points 23 hours ago (6 children)

The Apple Store will use Lyft for same-day. I had a laptop charger die on me and wasn’t in any position to drive out for a new one. It was sketchy to say the least.

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[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 16 points 23 hours ago

I'm pretty sure something similar happened to me three weeks ago, because I saw it was delivered and went down to the floor of my building to grab my items literally five minutes after and they were nowhere to be seen.

Then, inexplicably, they showed up (open but re-taped) two weeks later.

I'm sure these big companies are well aware these scams are happening.

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