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Fox News reports that Donald Trump may consider using nuclear weapons to eliminate Iran’s Fordo nuclear facility

The U.S. military has reservations regarding the success of using a bunker-buster bomb, a non nuclear weapon, to eliminate Iran’s Fordo nuclear facility, buried deep in a mountain. Two defense officials were reportedly briefed that only a tactical nuclear weapon could reach the facility.

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[–] GoobyMcMooby@lemmy.zip 95 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

God damn female presidents am I right? Now nukes are being bandied about in the midst of the VP getting into Twitter fights with randoms about trans people during national security meetings. I can’t believe wait what? Oh. It’s the grown ass men with impulse control and emotional problems. I was told that women would get us into WWIII.

[–] DrFistington@lemmy.world 41 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Our last election just showed that by and large, uneducated white men and the elderly would rather get raped by an old white man than helped by a young black woman

[–] Lodespawn@aussie.zone 26 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I agree with the sentiment but the word young is doing a lot of work here, Kamala is 60 years old ..

[–] Placebonickname@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

She young at heart compared to Trump who is, by definition, a grouchy old fuck.

[–] Lodespawn@aussie.zone 4 points 2 days ago

Well this is true, she's definitely not an elderly dementia afflicted ghoul.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 days ago

ngl, if she's sixty then she's doing something right

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[–] SkyNTP@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 days ago

Hate to break it to you, but for the first time, the younger generation skewed Trump. In fact every demographic skewed Trump. This cancer is affecting all of society, not just a single demographic.

[–] 800XL@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

The Peter Pan Party doing what boys that never grew up do best.

[–] Substance_P@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

👏👏👏

[–] Substance_P@lemmy.world 85 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 20 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Same as Iraq. The US sells the poison and snake oil to cure it.

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[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 58 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Trump really wants to do a nuke on something. That would secure some kind of place for him in history, I'm sure.

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 26 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Bombing Japan is a big dark spot on our history. As was our treatment of Japanese Americans during WWII. Basically everyone agrees on that.

We retconned history to say dropping the big bombs would have averted many more casualties, and maybe that's true, but really a.) who knows and b.) big difference between civilian casualties and military casualties.

[–] Grimy@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

Definitely a war crime. It also most likely brought about anime which is objectively worse.

[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

MAGAts don't feel remorse for what we did to Japan. I used to work with one who used the interment camps to justify migrants being separated from their children and thrown in cages. His logic was that "people weren't up in arms about it then, why do they care about it now?"

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[–] Nightwingdragon@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

Not that anyone will be around to learn about it.....

[–] evenglow@lemmy.world 51 points 2 days ago

Just an fyi, last time he really wanted to use a nuke. No one would let him so they convinced him to use a MOAB (Mother Of All Bombs) instead.

https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/trump-drops-the-mother-of-all-bombs-on-afghanistan

[–] WatDabney@sopuli.xyz 44 points 2 days ago

Surely now at least some few of the people in authority who have ignored Trump's grossly obvious unfitness for office will do something, right?

Right?

[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Trump says: “nothing is off the table”

Fox News: Perfect Clickbait lets claim considering nukes

The New Republic for some reason: Yes lets repost fox news clickbait

[–] Pacattack57@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Sure but by definition if nothing is off the table how does that not include nuclear weapons?

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Helpful guide for spur of the moment vacation destinations.

[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 15 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Maine is looking really good, but would you really want to survive this shit?

[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (4 children)

The odds of a ICBM hitting are low if it comes via air, we'd see it coming and be able to intercept in many cases. It's the land based attacks, like smuggling a dirty bomb in or chemical weapons, that I worry about more.

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I have some very bad news for you about our success intercepting missiles. We very much do not have a reliable defence against missiles. We regularly fail interception tests.

https://breakingdefense.com/2022/02/no-us-missile-defense-system-proven-capable-against-realistic-icbm-threats-study/

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Yeah I was gonna say this, I have no idea why or how it came to be that people think an ICBM MIRV can be realistically or reliably intercepted.

Some of them?

Maybe, yeah, but... most of them? Hell no.

EDIT: Oh, that commenter said they were stoned when they wrote that. I... guess that is an explanations of sorts.

[–] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.org 7 points 2 days ago

Yeah good luck intercepting a MIRV

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The odds of a ICBM hitting are low if it comes via air...

I'm curious to see what other ways you think an ICBM is going to get to the target.

[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

lol yeah I could've phrased that better, kinda stoned.

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

Fair enough. It gave me a laugh and I had to ask.

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Well since it's an inter continental ballistic missile then obviously it could burrow underground as well. Duhhhhh.

[–] Scolding7300@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

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[–] Sarmyth@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

I actually no longer trust that to be true with how many systems and programs were gutted. I suspect we probably dismantled our early warning systems.

If thats not the case, I still question whether or not this administration would let a blue state get hit when they could prevent it just out of spite.

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[–] AdamEatsAss@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

As a life long new jersey citizen I'm glad someone finally finds us important.

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[–] A7thStone@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Why the hell is Syracuse a civilian target? There's nothing there anymore.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago

I can't say, not my map, I dunno anything about Syracuse beyond the wiki page.

Which does say its over half a million people in the metro area... Rapid City, South Dakota only has under a 100k, and it gets a nuke.

Could be as simple as: Its got enough people, its a transit crossroads, its far away enough from other larger metros that it gets its own miniature sun, because the one(s) hitting NYC won't reach that far.

[–] arin@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Reminds me of his previous term talking about nuking the hurricane.

[–] FinalRemix@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Shame it was an empty threat; these hurricanes won't learn otherwise.

[–] BigMacHole@sopuli.xyz 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I voted for Trump because he's the PRO PEACE President!

[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 5 points 2 days ago

Bigly so. Big guy crying. Big big. Big guy. Bigly yes.

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Trump has been itching to be the second person in history to nuke a population. He doesn't realize what it means because he's a complete fucking idiot.

[–] Mirshe@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

No, he knows. I don't think he cares, because they're not him. You fail to understand the mind of a narcissist - other people are not people, and the ones who actively say that they dislike you or what you stand for might as well be ants on the sidewalk for all the thought you give about them, ever.

[–] Soulg@ani.social 2 points 1 day ago

I mostly agree but he seems to be absolutely obsessed with people who don't like him

[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

He's a psychopath, he has no empathy. He doesn't care at all.

[–] iamanurd@midwest.social 14 points 2 days ago
[–] Substance_P@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You really can't believe a word someone like this says. They've all read the Art of War, and whatever they claim is going to be strategic misdirection.

[–] Chocrates@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

Please let this be a time he listens to someone sane.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Gleefully sounding the trumpet for the end of the world

Can somebody please please stop him before he kills us all?

[–] Mirshe@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

None of his Cabinet will. All of them have been chosen mostly to make sure they don't get in his way when his Wormtongue gives him ideas.

[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

USA: We drop nukes so you don't have to

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