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[–] jayandp@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 hour ago
[–] qjkxbmwvz@startrek.website 30 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

The energy from nuclear reactions can be astonishingly large (compared to, say, chemical reactions).

But atoms are really, really, really small.

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 4 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Man they could have forced countless generations to fight genocidal wars without the monotheistic religious pretext or impetus if this has really happened.

[–] sheogorath@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

Don't worry, if that happened, something else will take it place. The only constant is the genocide, the reason is just a variable.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 48 points 18 hours ago (3 children)

I remember growing up as a kid, doing my time in Sunday School, and getting this story pitched as "Wise King Solomon ferret's out the truth of maternity by determining which claimant truly cares about the life of the child".

It's kinda crazy how the story has permuted into "Two women fight over a thing and both agree splitting it in half is the fair solution."

I think the permutation is because it works better on a comedic level. Probably started out as basic "But what if king Solomon did cut the baby in half" arguments and eventually became a general joke. The base level of "cut the baby in half" is already dark by itself all it takes is going through with it and you have a good bit of dark humor.

Also the whole scenario of king Solomon almost comes across as him not necessarily being particularly smart but moreso that the people he was dealing with were crazy or stupid.

[–] Velypso@sh.itjust.works 4 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

You are waaaay overthinking this

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

They're just describing the plot of the actual story though...

[–] lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 17 hours ago

What I like about the story is that true motherhood isn't about biology or DNA but about caring. And I get why even people who care about the well-being of a child wouldn't care about the well-being of an atom

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 11 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (6 children)

Real talk: Would literally cutting a single atom in half unleash the force of an atomic bomb? Would it even be a noticeable reaction to the unassisted human eye?

I've seen some science show stuff at particle accelerators where a dude points to some device giving off sparks and is like "these sparks are actually anti-matter explosions." So I wonder if a single atom of regular matter would even be a spark.

[–] nailbar@sopuli.xyz 6 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

I found a similar discussion on Reddit and liked this comment because it was easy to understand:

The energy released in the fission (splitting) of ONE atom of U-235 is enough to make a single grain of sand visibly move.

It's apparently a quote from the book The Making of the Atomic Bomb by Richard Rhodes.

[–] DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world 11 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (2 children)

There are carbon atoms splitting (decaying) inside of you right now. This is why carbon dating works. Do you notice them?

Yeah, unless the atom in question is neutronium, you won't notice and if it is neutronium, you have all kinds of issues even without splitting it.

[–] logicbomb@lemmy.world 7 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

This reminds me of people freaking out over particle accelerators. Will it create a black hole????

Only they don't know that the Earth is regularly bombarded with high energy particles from space. The reason we need particle accelerators is so that we can accelerate the desired types of particles to the desired speed, and aim them at the desired place.

[–] Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net 7 points 9 hours ago

Most people have no idea just how little they actually know about the world around them.

Hell, most of what the average person "knows" is just made up assumptions they had about things they knew little to nothing about and subsequently internalized those assumptions without actually researching if they were correct.

Humans are hella prone to trapping ourselves in fallacious thought without even knowing we do it. It's just how our brains have evolved to work through inductive reasoning.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 5 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

There are carbon atoms splitting (decaying) inside of you right now... Do you notice them?

Silly talk: Idk... I sometimes get this weird, tingling feeling through my whole body. You think it might be carbon decay?

[–] DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world 3 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

Not unless you feel it all the time (and even if you do, the energy released is not enough to activate nerve endings).

[–] Psaldorn@lemmy.world 7 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Only a tiny part of the atom is converted to energy in fission. An antimatter annihilation is 100%

Even then a hydrogen+anti hydrogen releases 1.86 x 10⁻¹⁰ Joules.

You need about 4 joules to heat 1g of water by 1C

and one annihilation is 0.000000000186J

Bananas emit antimatter.

[–] Vandals_handle@lemmy.world 5 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

So what happens when you split a banana split?

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 11 points 14 hours ago

You make a friend.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 4 points 16 hours ago

it rather depends on the atom and how you go about doing it- and also, what the atom is surrounded by. if it were split in such a way that neutrons were released into other neutrons, generating a cascade reaction... then.. yes. That's kinda how a nuke works.

But in general? probably not.

[–] orbitz@lemmy.ca 2 points 16 hours ago

It worked in the movie Young Einstein and I trust movies, not really I just wanted to make an amusing but related comment about a lesser well than known movie of my youth. Of course since it's a comic seems semi relevant, it was a part of the movie trailer heh unless my memory is worse than I hope but I don't want to delve there.

[–] EtherWhack@lemmy.world 2 points 16 hours ago

I think the most concerning thing would be the radiation that it would give off. Aside from that, I'm not really sure it there would be more than a possible spark as you mentioned, though it may also depend on the size of the atom.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 7 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (5 children)

As I've learned more, the energy from a single atom is not much. They split nitrogen long before uranium but it didn't really matter. You need the chain reaction of uranium.

From Gemini:

The energy released from a single uranium atom splitting is an infinitesimally tiny fraction of what's needed to even warm a mug of water. You would need the simultaneous fission of approximately 1.96 quadrillion (1,960,000,000,000,000) uranium atoms to heat a single mug of water.

*JFC what's up with the downvotes? Because I used Gemini?

[–] pruwybn@discuss.tchncs.de 29 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

I'm not downvoting you, but I think a lot of people, including me, would read "from Gemini" (or any AI) as "you can't trust this information".

[–] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 hour ago

For me, whenever anyone includes AI generated crap in their comment, I think three things:

  1. Great, I now need to fact check this because you can't trust AI
  2. If I wanted AI generated crap, I'd go get it myself
  3. The commenter couldn't ever be bothered to actually author their comment, this is the lowest of low effort content, and is definitionally deserving of a downvote
[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 4 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

ChatGPT will straight up hallucinate numbers (or any information). Gemini is much more accurate. Haven't tried others.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 hour ago

They all do it.

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 43 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Thank God there was an AI here to tell us something we could just look up.

[–] egrets@lemmy.world 13 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (2 children)

I was interested in whether this was accurate. I got a similar answer, but I know almost nothing about nuclear fission and math is not my strong suit. Here it is anyway:

The heat capacity of water is fairly linear. At normal atmospheric pressure, it's 4,200J/kg°C, which means a 300ml mug of water would take 1,260 joules to raise by 1°C and thus 75,600 joules to raise by 60°C.

Fission of a single atomic nucleus of U-235 releases an average of 3.2e-11 joules (0.000000000032). To release 75,600 joules would presumably take fission of 2.3625e+15 atoms (2,362,500,000,000,000 -- two quadrillion three hundred sixty-two trillion five hundred billion).

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 3 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

You uh definitely at least took a heat transfer class in college or you wouldn't know what to do with all this stuff. Hell, I took one 10 years ago, and I barely know what to do with this information anymore. Kudos to you for doing the napkin math

[–] egrets@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago

Nah, just read into it a little and then forgot it afterwards! The first link -- the old Reddit thread -- was quite helpful.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago

Considering it was 250 ml by 60 C, looks bang on.

[–] lihmalahmalehma@suppo.fi 16 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

You would need the simultaneous fission of approximately 1.96 quadrillion (1,960,000,000,000,000) uranium atoms to heat a single mug of water.

heat by how much? AI as useful as ever.

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[–] fartographer@lemmy.world 7 points 19 hours ago (1 children)
[–] MajorMajormajormajor@lemmy.ca 4 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

No, I amanium!

[–] ricdeh@lemmy.world 6 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

Isn't that common knowledge? I don't think that anyone seriously believes that splitting a single atom causes an explosion.

[–] 0ops@piefed.zip 4 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

altr

I mean I'm not saying that you're an expert, but my us highschool education regarding nuclear fission was pretty handwavy, and won't come up again in most careers

[–] Diddlydee@feddit.uk 12 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I'd wager loads of people with no scientific knowledge do.

[–] JohnnyCanuck@lemmy.ca 6 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

I'd wager they don't even know what you mean by "splitting an atom" and wouldn't give a rat's ass whether it released any energy.