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Google’s Android, the world’s most widely used mobile operating system, started life as open-source software. In its quest for ever-greater profits, the tech giant has been gradually eroding Android’s open-source nature over the last decade.

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[–] usernameunnecessary@lemmy.zip 157 points 1 week ago (8 children)

Unfortunately the Android experience is getting more and more bloated and users' freedom to tinker with their phones or sideload apps is getting more and more difficult. The Play Store is riddled with more ads than useful content. Just try searching for something, and oftentimes more than half of your screen is ads.

I've been with Android since the start and I hate what Google is reducing it to. It pains me that the only viable alternative is Apple and I feel trapped.

[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 47 points 1 week ago (11 children)

F-Droid is a decent replacement for the play store. Lots of FOSS and less-enshittified apps available.

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[–] wise_pancake@lemmy.ca 27 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Play Store is truly vile to use. It just feels gross and scammy and like a mine field of low quality slop and scam apps.

iOS isn’t great either but it at least feels a whole lot better. The iOS store needs the ability to report fraid which it doesn’t sort until you install an app.

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[–] semperverus@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago

Support devices like the Liberux Nexx or the pinephone, especially if you are a developer!

[–] chaosCruiser@futurology.today 20 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

We're all trapped. If you're not using either Android or iOS, you're pretty much screwed.

Technically, you can use one of the alternate phones, but the software support still leaves a lot to be desired. You can get most basic things working, but when it comes to crucial deal breaker apps like anything involving payments or banks, it gets a lot trickier. The world has become increasingly dependent on mobile phones, and if your phone can't handle train tickets, mail deliveries, restaurant reservations or pay your bills, it suddenly becomes very difficult to live in the 2020s.

More and more hardware also depends on specific iOS or Android apps, and those apps may also require GAPPS or some OEM Android. At some point, it just isn't worth the hassle, and it becomes easier to pick either one of the toxic platforms everyone else is already using.

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[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 98 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Google keeps making everything worse.

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[–] majster@lemmy.zip 78 points 1 week ago (2 children)

MS keeps making Windows worse but that is not a problem because Linux is great on PCs. The reason is that PC is made out of standardized plug&play components that you can make generic OS image for.

There is no such thing in smartphone world. Each chipset is it's own Linux fork that gets only most crucial bug fixes while in warranty. Same is true for ARM SBCs where I believe the only board that supports generic image are new RPis.

[–] Natanael@infosec.pub 20 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Both ARM itself and Linux for ARM has been standardizing a fair bit recently. But not to the extent to be fully generic, mostly just enough for portable bootable kernels - and after that you still need all the same custom drivers and configurations to make proper use of a SoC, but it's not nothing.

https://linuxgizmos.com/ebbr-spec-to-bring-standardization-to-embedded-linux-boot-process/

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[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 63 points 1 week ago

Google should be broken up and its leadership fined into oblivion for anti competitive behavior

[–] ohwhatfollyisman@lemmy.world 58 points 1 week ago (4 children)

android peaked with the pixel 2. then everyone went overboard on bezel-less displays and fast refresh rates and smart assistant services and brought the whole damn thing crashing down.

[–] LedgeDrop@lemmy.zip 38 points 1 week ago (4 children)

... and I want my headphone jack, back.

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[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 29 points 1 week ago

I don't think the issue with phones is the smaller bezels or better displays.

That's not what's ruining them.

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[–] jjlinux@lemmy.ml 43 points 1 week ago (14 children)

2 days ago I moved from GrapheneOS back to Stock Pixel in my 8 Pro, just to see what all the hype about the new android 16 in Pixel is about. Jesus, this is way worse than I remember. i tried it for 2 whole days, and that shit just won't allow me to have ANY control over my phone. It's fucking ridiculous. On Android 15 I was able to uninstall Google Drive, Meet, Youtube, and many other Google apps, this time around all it would allow was "disable". What's next, removing the ability to disable (which I don't trust anyway)?

Fast forward to today, I'm back on GOS, and my anxiety levels are down again. This shit is insane, and I honestly can't understand why anyone would put up with this crap.

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[–] VicksVaporBBQrub@sh.itjust.works 43 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Can I get a rundown of the few non-flagship phonemakers that are currently out there? I have heard of The Nothing Phone. Are there more companies that put together Androids to operate within the US?

[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 50 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Fairphone just released the Fairphone 6.

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[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 32 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (17 children)

The big problem with anything not Google or Samsung is, as it's always been, software support. You get 2 or maybe 3 years of updates and then the device is trash. So you can save a buck on the short term but it will cost you more in the long run and you'll have shitty devices all the way along anyway.

You can buy a 2 year old Pixel for $2-300 and it will last you another 4-5 years (unless Google remotely nukes your battery).

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[–] Prox@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Would Moto count? I've been rocking their basic-ass phones for years now. Way, way less bloatware than Samsung, etc. and only like $200 unlocked.

[–] xep@fedia.io 21 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I think Moto is actually Lenovo now?

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[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 41 points 1 week ago (11 children)

Up until about two weeks ago I could use wallet on my rooted pixel with lineage and play integrity fix.

Some recent change on their end and it doesn't work at all anymore. I guess they don't want to know what I'm buying.

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[–] midtsveen@lemmy.wtf 40 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)
[–] No1@aussie.zone 37 points 1 week ago (4 children)

The stupid attempt to have everyone leave bluetooth always on pisses me off. They've made the BT quick tile 2 more presses to toggle on or off is ridiculous. It's not a quick tile.

I've just put a BT on/off widget on my home screen.

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[–] Canuck@sh.itjust.works 36 points 1 week ago (16 children)

Mobile GNU/Linux is getting better, but I think it is 5-10 years out from what's needed. I suppose people need to adopt Desktop first. The nice thing is you can install Android apps including Google Play on it natively, and they appear in your app drawer like a regular app

[–] douglasg14b@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It's a bit of a catch honestly.

OSS/community Linux graphical environments have kind of always been ~5 years out from what's needed. 15 years ago they were behind ~5 years, 5 years ago they where behind ~5 years.

The only difference is today. I think they're only behind by ~3-4 years thanks to the backwards movement of things like Windows and OSx staleness.

Mobile operating systems are in a worse place.

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[–] Flukas88@feddit.it 35 points 1 week ago (10 children)

Sadly iOS is not much better

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[–] BilboBargains@lemmy.world 35 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The obfuscated nature of compiled code does an incredible amount of heavy lifting on behalf of shareholders. Imagine a world where x-ray specs suddenly revealed source code. The flight to open solutions would be irresistible. Windows is hot garbage but it clings to its market share like a limpet, through the magic of closed source, occupying space like a flabby tumour. It doesn't care if it kills the host because the top priority is growth and an unassailable market share. That's the magic of capitalism.

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[–] SeeFerns@programming.dev 27 points 1 week ago (8 children)

I really want to try a pinephone or something with Ubuntu touch. It’s likely not daily driver ready but I’m still curious at how far along it is.

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[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (15 children)

Tried to restart my fairly new Pixel phone a couple days ago by holding down the power button, but instead of showing the Power menu it prompted me to ask the Digital Assistant something. Excuse me? I don't remember enabling that. Every other phone I've ever had, holding down the power button has always been the way to power down or restart. I had to search Settings to find how to configure the power button to control the power. Or course maybe I could have asked the Digital Assistant - but fuck that.

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[–] whotookkarl@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (7 children)

It's almost like the organization itself is designed to make things worse if it means short term profits, useful and appreciated apps sacrificed at the altar of line must go up

My pixel 5 recently broke and the only reason I went with a pixel 9a was to install grapheneOS on it as soon as I got it. The process has become way easier than it used to be. After setting up/skipping all the first run screens I plugged it into another Android device and used the grapheneOS site to run the install, took like 15 min.

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