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Scotland stopped voting Labour into power over a decade ago. If only England had the balls to do it too. Torys and Labour, two sides of the same corrupt coin. Come England, youre better than that. Starmer is a tory cunt. Vote greens, or Libdems, or anyone else buy those two corrupt scum parties.
~~Labour~~ Starmer is just warming shitface Nigel's seat at this point
On france, we currently have one with 2.1M signatures, gov still said nope (petition against reintroduction of dangerous pesticide, backed by sciencists community)
Don't you guys have a more effective way of convincing the government?
Milk poured all over the streets of Paris worked well for the dairy farmers to the best of my knowledge. Imagine the fucking smell two days later.
The French are first class protesters.
The problem being that the farmers are usually protesting for pesticide.
Yellow vests, Citroëns on fire, Guillotines
Citroëns on fire
A fine tradition
There is no legal binding whatsoever?
It compells the government to talk about it.
That's it.
"so what shall we do about that petition then?"
"tell them to shove it?"
"great ! Good work everyone, let's have lunch."
I signed the petition but I had zero belief it would actually result in anything.
We don't actually live in a democracy, that's just something they tell us while they do whatever the bloody hell they want.
reminds me of my philosophy teacher arguing against someone because my teacher said that we don't live in a democracy, but a lot of people disagreed.
i still remember the look of disapointment in their face, since they had just told us the definition of democracy😭
I love people who say "we don't live in a democracy because we live in a republic." Yeah, we don't live in a republic either, bitch.
A republic has a specific definition but we absolutely do not meet.
i understand thinking you live in a democracy, but i've never heard people saying it's a republic 💀
They got it from American conservatives. Love idiot to idiot communication like this, two dumbass groups separated by an ocean using the same phrase incorrectly in different ways.
Meanwhile Nigel Farage is just racking up these own goals while getting ready to sell the whole country in three years time.
More like "This is good thing, please vote."
The purpose of online petitions is to provide a means for people to psychologically discharge their righteous anger at something and need to be heard about it, by "doing something", with a "something" which the politicians can safelly ignore.
It's a lot harder to ignore large demonstrations and even harder to ignore people activelly campaigning at the grassroots level in their electoral circles to make specific asshole politicians loose their seats, so best have the ~~plebes~~ citizens discharge their anger on some automated online straight-to-trash People's Will recorder.
Wait until you hear about protests
Just don't inconvenience anyone in any way.
Being slightly irritating is a terrorist activity now.
Also if you get too much attention you're hurting your own message
Pretty much - we all put our names to them, but they do nothing.
The best option is to organise writing campaigns to your local MP and indicate that this is the decider on your vote.
I mean 122,000 out of 60 million isn’t a lot.
Could likely get 5 million to say banning people based on colour is a good idea, but I don’t agree.
Only need 500 (out of 40mil) + one MP sign off for the government to legally have to respond in Canada. They don't have to say yes but they have to officially acknowledge you at least. I was pretty surprised by how low that threshold is.
It's only like 10k here too, but the response is always "we have no plans to change anything"
Counterpoint: Brexit
The petition to reverse Brexit got something like 4 million signatures. Response: LOL No.
Brexit it's referendum because the Tories were scared of loosing power to Frog Face Faeage's party. So they did a bit of appeasement.
That just proves the point. The politicians will do what serves them best, regardless of what's good for the people or the country.
Yeah, that's very true. But they'll do the bad thing it even if there's a referendum on it.
but why
Because there is nothing legally binding about petitions.
If petitions (= begging) are the highest level of what people can do between two elections, something about the system is fundamentally broken.
Well it does atleast force them to make a public opinion on it, it’s a foot in the door.
Which would be useful if they were also forced to actually provide a somewhat science based line of reasoning for their answer. But in reality its gonna be completely made up reasons not based on any facts.
This image is a great reflection of the entire history of the UK, incidentally.