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[–] johnefrancis@lemmy.ca 32 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

the Conservatives are not a solution, especially under Poilievre.

[–] cyborganism@piefed.ca 9 points 3 weeks ago

Go tell that to everyone else. It seems nobody sees that point of view. Otherwise they wouldn't be that popular.

[–] potter2010@lemmy.ca 27 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

While I voted NDP I had hopes for Carney with his 'elbows up' stance. However, he immediately tucked them in and started bending over for tRump. Between that and (trying to) ending the Air Canada strike, no wonder voters are getting disillusioned.

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 17 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

As an Australian, who has kept a close eye on politics across 5 eyes for 20+ years, this is the same across all of them, and almost every western "democracy".

There is no leftism left in any major/mainstream "leftist" party. There is only conservative/fascism and neoliberalism, both of which create the economic and social conditions in the working class that lead to fascism/dictatorship. I've come to the conclusion that capitalism is likely incompatible with democracy... maybe even human psychology is incompatible with democracy, as it seems the most greedy, sociopathic, and authoritarian tend to gain popular support and end up in power eventually, no matter what.

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago

I agree with everything except that humanity is incompatible with democracy.

[–] AGM@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 weeks ago

Carney is restrained by the decision space he has to work within. When this kicked off, Carney looked to the UK and to Europe for support. The UK and Europe have both caved. Also, look at what's happening in Alberta. The US has a long history of executing regime change in democratic allies by fomenting internal conflict. I have no doubt Carney is feeling the pressure from that as well. The reality is simply that Canada is pretty stuck. Carney's government has at least made moves to diversify, but he's leading a country without anyone to turn to for help, with an information and media system that's basically controlled by US entities, and that's under threat of serious disruption to internal stability by a country known for regime change efforts.

To my eyes, he's pretty screwed.

[–] garbagebagel@lemmy.world 23 points 3 weeks ago

If only there was some third (or fourth) less shitty party somewhere that gives a fuck about workers or one that gives a fuck about the environment... Maybe even both. Nah, let's just swing back conservative, they'll fix it.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 15 points 3 weeks ago

It’s coming y’all. The propaganda is thick.

[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 15 points 3 weeks ago

With every new capitulation to Trump, Carney is slowly bleeding off whatever confidence people had in him. He isn't just giving up on fighting for Canadians, he's busy selling off everything he said he was trying to protect. He's a fucking joke.

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 12 points 3 weeks ago

Without some deep top ticket populist reforms that very obviously change the lives of everyday people for the better, the angry fascistic no-future conservatives are guaranteed to take over.

But it has to be clear, obvious, immediate and real, and it has to signal there is a future that is worth actually building for. Which is the kind of stuff that for some reason are the stuff that are actually difficult for Liberals to do.

[–] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 11 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Mark Carney "Should we become even more conserative?"

[–] sik0fewl@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 weeks ago

I don't think he's going to ask anyone.

[–] Darkcoffee@sh.itjust.works 11 points 3 weeks ago

Abacus has skewed con for a little while now, and is the outlier (all other polls point to pp being mighty unpopular and Angus Reid also shows that half of Canadians would be ashamed to call him PM

[–] mrdown@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago

Carney will make us lose to the fool Poilievre

[–] switcheroo@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

You'd think having a prime example of conservative bullshit directly to the south would make Canada be a little smarter...

You want to be a shit hole country but that's how you become a shithole country.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 weeks ago

Our current leader is trying to suck the orange micro so all the cons have to say is “we won’t do that” to be more popular.