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[–] jcs@lemmy.world 63 points 3 days ago
[–] MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 392 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (7 children)

https://www.libreoffice.org/ for anyone who wants microsoft to stop messing with their office apps.

[–] simple@piefed.social 62 points 5 days ago (16 children)

There is also only office which has better compatibility with MSOffice file types

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[–] diptchip@lemmy.world 74 points 4 days ago (6 children)

Not to be used to train AI. We promise.

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[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 77 points 4 days ago

To anyone thinking "LibreOffice still has issues", here's the LibreOffice donation page to help them fix it up and be rid of MS Office forever.

[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 32 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Holy fucking shit, what absolute trash

[–] hietsu@sopuli.xyz 10 points 3 days ago

They’re prepared to do anything to get real user data for AI training. This little change gives them easily millions of files per day accidentally saved to cloud.

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[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 149 points 5 days ago (14 children)

This is certainly about making sure your files are safe and definitely not about stealing your data for training AI. /s

Don't let Murdersoft steal your data. Don't contribute to their corruption or genocide assistance.

Step 1: https://fedoraproject.org/
Step 2: https://www.libreoffice.org/

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[–] dalin@lemmy.ml 19 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

The breaking point for me was when I was showered with Copilot+ pop-ups on every single hover. Let me fucking copy/cut/paste/format in peace. I never asked for any of this, and neither did any user of any level of expertise.

Switched to OnlyOffice as it felt to perfectly answer my needs. There are still some quirks with non-UTF-8 documents, but you know what, I'd rather iron those issues out than be shoved a product I didn't request nor need at every single interaction I have.

I highly encourage anyone that hasn't done already to explore alternatives to the M*crosoft Suite, if they haven't done it by now. Every update is just the worst form of enshittification known to humankind. Can't wait to have an intrusive slop AI agent tell me how to do my Maths in the Calculator app next.

Let apps be just apps again 🗣️🗣️📢

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[–] Prox@lemmy.world 186 points 5 days ago (5 children)

I suppose this means Microsoft will not count Word doc file sizes against users' cloud storage quotas, right? Right??

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 81 points 5 days ago (8 children)

It'll be like Google: everything goes in, nothing comes out unless you jump through difficult hoops, price continually goes up.

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[–] pinchy@lemmy.world 34 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

At this point that’s almost like ransomware.

[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 17 points 4 days ago (2 children)

At this point, why even have desktop apps at all?

Teams and Outlook are basically busy glorified web browsers that load the online version... Now word is going to send your shit to the cloud whether you like it or not?

Google docs does this, but they don't have a desktop app to deceive you with. You create the doc, and edit it where it is, on the cloud, using a web interface that's vaguely "word"-like.

The only people this will "help" is all the inept business people that can't figure out where to put their data so it's not lost. There's lots of those.

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[–] selkiesidhe@sh.itjust.works 77 points 4 days ago (12 children)

No, I don't think they will. LibreOffice

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[–] TheProtagonist@lemmy.world 28 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

If you mind that Word documents are stored in the cloud by default, you need to modify the default setting

...or just use some other app for your private documents and Word only for work-related stuff or such. I use Word/Office at work and have absolutely no issue with all the documentation being saved in the cloud. But for private stuff I would have to think twice if I want this.

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[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 70 points 4 days ago (5 children)

Thank you to the skilled developers who bailed on OpenOffice when the shit stain company Oracle bought Sun, and formed LibreOffice.

I can only hope there will always be digital freedom fighters on the side of good.

I've donated to LibreOffice, and you should too, if you use their suite.

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[–] ZMoney@lemmy.world 29 points 4 days ago (9 children)

This might be when I finally jump ship and go to Linux. I should do Mint, right?

[–] ThePrivacyPolicy@lemmy.ca 17 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Having switched many relatives to Linux recently too, Mint will be your best jumping off point for a familiar feel and pain free experience as someone new to Linux. If you love that and find yourself wanting more, then the world is your oyster! I started on Mint and ultimately settled on Fedora Plasma after trying out a half dozen different options.

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[–] zer0bitz@lemmy.world 13 points 4 days ago

Before doing anything you can try out different Linux Distros at Distrosea

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[–] Reygle@lemmy.world 84 points 4 days ago (11 children)

"Fuck you, Microsoft." -Everyone, at all times

Even if you're not ready to come to Linux, you're definitely ready to switch to LibreOffice. I dare you to try it.

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[–] obinice@lemmy.world 123 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Let's say this huge breach of security and privacy is okay.

How are Microsoft ensuring these sensitive documents are not being transferred via or stored on servers located in hostile countries with lax data laws (such as foreign nations like the USA?).

[–] JohnnyCanuck@lemmy.ca 82 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Microsoft has already said it doesn't matter where your data is stored, it isn't safe from the United States.

But you can change this behaviour in settings, it's just the default for now.

So, if you don't trust Microsoft to handle your documents, but still somehow use MS Word and OneDrive, for the moment you can still stop it from saving your Word documents to their servers.

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[–] Fedditor385@lemmy.world 20 points 4 days ago (1 children)

This made my blood boil, and then I remembered I switched to Linux a month ago... all good.

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[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 25 points 4 days ago

You have to click through to a third save dialogue just to choose “Browse my files…”.

[–] ClydapusGotwald@lemmy.world 18 points 4 days ago

Why I use libreoffice.

[–] AmazingAwesomator@lemmy.world 98 points 5 days ago (3 children)
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[–] lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 3 days ago

Jesus christ. So glad I ditched MS. It's like getting out of a cult - once you see it looking in from the outside, you finally realize how terrible it is.

[–] abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone 50 points 4 days ago

L I B R E O F F I C E

[–] roserose56@lemmy.ca 30 points 4 days ago (24 children)

Libre office does the job for me! Auto save on cloud sucks. At least you can turn it off! For now.

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[–] flandish@lemmy.world 85 points 5 days ago (8 children)

tip: do not write about the revolution, short stories, hatred of capitalism, your suicide plans, or your teenage angst and erotic anthropomorphic horse fan fiction.

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 63 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (6 children)

tip: Only write about the revolution, short stories about your hatred of capitalism, your suicide plans, your teenage angst, and erotic anthropomorphic horse fan fiction.

For everything else, use LibreOffice.

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[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 29 points 4 days ago (8 children)

I still use Wordpad to write all my gay dinosaur erotica, am I safe?

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[–] Lumidaub@feddit.org 61 points 5 days ago (9 children)

You can turn it off. Opt-out is still bullshit.

[–] kennedy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 58 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (5 children)

you can turn it off for now*

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[–] silt_haddock@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago (3 children)

I would love to switch to LibreOffice (or similar) but I haven’t been able to find a way to get tables to work in the same way they do in Excel, and that’s a deal breaker for me. None of the suggested approaches come close to being able to select a range, press ctrl+t and immediately be able to filter/sort/lookup using column names from anywhere in the document. I use that feature dozens of times a day, and so does everyone in my circles that deals with financial data.

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[–] PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world 25 points 4 days ago (5 children)

I’d rather use old ass word perfect at this point

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[–] edgyspazkid@lemmy.wtf 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

GUYS BUT NOW I CAN WORK EVEN FASTER AND EFFICIENT! I DON’T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT SAVING BECAUSE EVERYTHING IS IN CLOUD! IT’S ALWAYS AVAILABLE! WINDOWS IS MOST USED SOFTWARE ON MARKET!

[–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 28 points 4 days ago (1 children)

this is their patch for the whole disk data loss debacle

[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 30 points 4 days ago (3 children)

and also "let us train copilot on your college essays".

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[–] nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 4 days ago (10 children)

this operating system still costs like $100

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[–] GaMEChld@lemmy.world 28 points 4 days ago

Idiots will still not know where anything is saved. Catering to the technologically illiterate has made society way more illiterate.

[–] davidagain@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

Some executive noticed that they can't sell you larger cloud storage if you haven't used it up.

Then someone on the office copilot team said they wished they had access to more comprehensive data about what people write with office apps and the rest is history.

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