We found a cure for aphantasia everyone, if this is real it needs official studies because aphantasia is a real condition (the inability of imaginining things) that impacts people
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I know a guy who has aphantasia and is using AI image generation to actually see what he’s thinking about. He explained that his imagination is more like an itemized list.
That's exactly how my imagination is.
I can imagine an apple
It's red It's round It has stem and sticker
I can't see it at all
How do people imagine stuff? When people say something like "I can imagine X vividly," I really can't relate. When asked to imagine things, I can only have split-second snapshots of the things in my mind. My mind's eye is more like reading a comic.
Basically the same for me. My imagination is a database. Do you get deja vu often as well? I frequently feel like I've been somewhere or seen something before because it ticks the same few boxes in the "database," since I don't have any actual visual memory. Usually the more important or significant something is, the more specificity I remember it with, which makes places I drive infrequently or things I rarely see pretty imprecise, leading to overlap.
Intersection ✅ Trees around ✅ Certain brand gas station on X corner ✅
Yep, I know where I am (is 15 miles away from there)! Thankful for navigation apps. I'd get lost constantly without em.
I very rarely get deja vu, I don't think I've experienced it in the last year, when I was younger though in my early 20s I would get it a lot.
I do have great difficulty recognising people who I've met once or twice. Unless I go through the effort of noting down their features etc I could talk to someone walk off come back and not be able to point them out unless I hear them talk.
Here's hoping I'm never a witness to a bank robbery or something haha
Phantasia, at least to a certain point, can be trained. During all the constant busing to my college, whenever I couldn't use my laptop from the person seating on the side of me, imagined things, then tried to create mental images of them.
Another weird thing is, that I found out, my dyspraxia could be made much less worse, almost on par with the average person at least, by using a better pen. Probably in my case it's a mixture of having a weird skin that makes things hurt that shouldn't, and people really wanting me to learn dexterity with "ball games" (read: football, played on hot asphalt) as a kid.
Yeah, ngl I was like shoot, do I need to start doing some ai image shit?
if that's true, that would be an interesting development, and help understanding and treating it
"condition" makes it sound like it's a problem lol, it's just a variation of thought
Aphantasia haver here. Full detail controllable movie in my head sounds cool. I also don't really care that much, though.
This has to be satire please God
Could also be part of a significant portion of people have undiagnosed aphantasia.
Learning that some people can't mentally visualize anything, but pictures of memories that they can't modify since they have no imagination felt wild.
Aphant here! I would actually love your theory to be true but unfortunately no amount of training or practicing makes me better or even able to visualise. Believe me, I spent many years trying and practicing art before I heard about aphantasia and realised thats what I have.
If I looked at 10k slop pictures and their corresponding prompts I wouldn't be able to imagine the outputs any more than I already can (which is not at all).
Likewise I can't do meditation or self-hypnosis where the guide says stuff like "imagine you're lying on a beach" etc. At least it makes me immune to those stage hypnotists who try to get someone suggestible up on stage.
It's so trippy to me because I'm opposite of that. If I'm daydreaming, I see the worlds inside my head almost as clearly as the real world, to the point where they overlap. I can be looking at a street in the real world and wherever my daydream is taking me, I see that as well on top of the real world.
I find it both fascinating and hard to imagine (ironically) how someone could see absolutely nothing in their head if someone told them to think of a tree growing out of a lake or a car that is also a three story house.
If there is one thing that upsets me about living, it's that I will only ever experience the world once and through one perspective.
Speaking only from my own experience as someone with almost-total aphantasia (I definitely dream visually, and when I get very tired I can sometimes see fleeting things with my eyes closed, with almost no control over what), I have found I have a very strong spatial memory and imagination. When someone asks me to imagine an apple, I get no picture, but I can still have awareness of/can sense its shape and position relative to me. I can feel a shape spin in my head. It's as though there is some particular step between "add the object to the environment, conceptually" and "render the object" that doesn't happen for me.
Maybe that's not true... https://youtu.be/h6fcK_fRYaI
I love The Egg ❤️ that story changed me as a person when i was in my early 20s xD I was even thinking about that story when I wrote my comment. By far one of the coolest depictions of empathy.
When I learned that there are humans out there who can't picture even simple things within their minds, I felt confused.
I was able to create entire worlds before going to bed when I was a kid, fantasy worlds to explore.
I thought all humans could picture things in their minds.
God is dead in this timeline
Probably for the best, have you read his weird fanfic book?
You ate the onion.
That guy IS the onion
ratlimit is a well known shitpost account btw
It blows my mind that some people can't visualize things in their mind. I can see anything I'd like to in remarkable detail, and often explore old places or properties from my childhood when I'm trying to fall asleep. I would be kind of crushed if I suddenly couldn't.
see the thing is I can't even tell if I can do this or not
like I can think of something and know the shape and quality of it, but I don't see it in my mind
I'm a mechanical designer, I design tooling and machines all day, and my hobbies include woodworking and 3D printing functional stuff. right now I'm thinking of the design of a kumiko lamp, and the grid pattern I want to use, but I just don't see it. it's the same with the essentially lego tooling I design at work, I know this block has this shape and connects to this other one with this surface, and the assembly of 10 parts looks like whatever, but I do not see that shape when I think about it. it's more that I know the description of it
I can lucid dream, though, so that's pretty sweet
Yeah, pretty much the same here. I can imagine shapes, smells, textures, whatever, but it's entirely different from seeing, smelling, or touching. Concepts, not images. Feels like the same part of the brain I'd use to, for instance, write a computer program. No issues visualising and designing 3D models either, or imagining what something in a book looks like.
Same when dreaming; I could describe everything in my dreams (if I had time during the few seconds after waking up when I still remember them) as if I had seen, heard, and felt it... but it was a completely different experience from actually seeing, hearing, or feeling it. Which means I can never mistake a dream for reality (which I suppose means I lucid dream too), because it's immediately obviously different (and I'm on the bed, with my eyes closed).
I suspect that I am someone who has aphantasia (inability to visualise stuff) and it's weird, because I only relatively recently realised that it was a thing that I likely had. I knew it was a thing in general much before this, but it didn't occur to me that it could apply to me, because surely that isn't just something you can just not notice about yourself. It turns out that yeah, actually, it can be something you don't notice, because if you've lived that way your entire life, you have nothing to compare against.
As a comparison, I am autistic and struggle with sensory hypersensitivity, as many autistic people do. Loud sounds and bright lights literally hurt me, and for a large chunk of my life, I didn't realise that I was literally experiencing the world differently to other people; I thought that everyone felt this discomfort, but I was the only one making a fuss out of it. It really blew my mind when I was diagnosed as a teenager and realised that not only was I experiencing stuff that most people weren't, that there may well be countless other ways in which my fundamental perceptions and cognition could be different, and I'd have no way of knowing.
Shit's trippy as hell.
For me, the best way I can describe what it feels like for me is: I can imagine an apple and I get a feeling as if I was seeing it, but I don't actually see it. I don't see an image in front of me. I only feel like I'm seeing an image, and I have to focus pretty hard to see anything in detail, but I can still use it to, for example, try and manipulate something in 3D, or try to remember what I was doing on a given day by trying to walk back through a place. I don't know under what category that makes me fall under.
That's regular.
Same. I genuinely don't understand what life is like without this. If I need to remember that there's a specific thing in the basement, I'm visualizing what's in the basement and looking at each thing. Do these people just like have an actual list in their head for this?
if I'm not at home and need to walk my spouse through something like checking for a tripped breaker, I'm visualizing the whole process so I can explain it in detail. How does the other side do this? No judgement, I'm genuinely curious how it works.
When AI isn't factual it's called "hallucination" lmao
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