While no system is completely idiot-proof (especially for an idiot this clever), they still could have done a better job. It's good that they highlight in red the non-conforming field, but the error message says "Please enter a valid date", leading the user to conclude incorrectly that the date itself was a problem, not the "Month" field.

They also could have used the international standard format, YYYY-MM-DD.

[–] Mesophar@pawb.social 8 points 6 days ago

User just can't read, would have found a way to mess up any interface. YYYY-MM-DD would have probably been filled in 0005-16-99

[–] N0t_Legal_Advice@lemmy.today 8 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Who is creating a RuneScape account in 2022?

[–] lengau@midwest.social 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Someone born in 1999

[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago

How do kids born in 1999 know about Runescape?

[–] TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 days ago

RuneScape is still mega popular

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 14 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

clearly its the month of SMARCH. or smapril.

[–] pleaseletmein@lemmy.zip 2 points 6 days ago

Lousy Smarch weather…

[–] Pulptastic@midwest.social 1 points 6 days ago

Yeah what’s wrong with Smarch 5th?

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 5 points 6 days ago

Do you not have quattuordecember in your territory?

[–] neon_nova@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 days ago

uhh.. it looks like he figured it out. Should we tell him, guys?

[–] PyroNeurosis@lemmy.blahaj.zone -3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (5 children)

I hold unequivocally that 2SEPT2025 is the best dating format: the units are in order from small to big, and the use of letters for month both break up the reading for a more concrete understanding and also make it unambiguous.

Edit: folks big on computerizing this shit. My bad. I find this to be optimal for human use.

[–] ano_ba_to@sopuli.xyz 20 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Natural numbers work backwards, units are in order from big to small. That also does not store well on databases or Excel. You can't sort it as text. YYYY-MM-DD-hh-mm

[–] itisileclerk@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Actually, the date and time format is: yyyy-MM-dd-HH-mm. Always 12 characters, can be sorted as text or long (if the - is removed).

[–] ano_ba_to@sopuli.xyz 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

As long as it's easy to manipulate at the back end. IBM DB2 date/time format uses 25 characters, and includes 6 decimal places for the seconds.

[–] pfwood178@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Or the DB2 date (only) format which is 7 characters: CYYMMDD
C = 1 if year is greater than 1999 as a "fix" for Y2K problems. 1250902 is today's date. 250902 was exactly 100 years ago.

[–] ano_ba_to@sopuli.xyz 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, that's what I'm dealing with these days...sigh. It won't be a problem for a while. Hopefully the AI of the future is trained for the edge case.

[–] pfwood178@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Here's atip that might help: Add 19,000,000 to any CYYMMDD date to convert it into YYYYMMDD

[–] ano_ba_to@sopuli.xyz 2 points 6 days ago

I will flex this knowledge at work. Thanks.

[–] Routhinator@startrek.website 5 points 6 days ago

Cool. Now have it sort by date in a column with simple alphanumeric ordering.

[–] Obi@sopuli.xyz 4 points 6 days ago

Except for all the languages that might have a different spelling for the months..

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Why is it important that they're listed small to big? How does that help?

[–] Madrigal@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

For the same reason it matters that we’ve agreed on a particular order to the alphabet.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 5 days ago

Ok, but if you use YYYY-MM-DD, you can sort alphabetically, and it will also sort chronologically.

[–] tomenzgg@midwest.social 2 points 6 days ago

Even in human use, – in nearly any given scenario – I care about the month far beyond and above before I ever care about the day; just knowing the day, without knowing the month, is useless to me while I may want to know about the month regardless the day.

[–] teft@piefed.social 192 points 1 week ago (9 children)

Anyone who has worked the IT desk knows how users are. Reading is against their beliefs.

[–] Madrigal@lemmy.world 14 points 6 days ago (1 children)

As someone who has raised tickets with IT desk, I’m pretty sure that’s true for them as well.

Me: Outlines extensive troubleshooting steps undertaken, starting with turning it off and on again, and ending with research that pins the problem down to a specific known platform issue with a clear fix.

Service desk, a week later: Have you tried turning it off and on again? Here’s a helpful KB article that tells you how to turn it off and on again. Thanks for contacting the service desk. This ticket is now closed. Have a wonderful day. 😇

[–] Rakonat@lemmy.world 11 points 6 days ago

I wish this wasn't hitting the nail on the head.

My workplace uses VPN and 'digital' printers so you can just scan your badge at any printer to get your documents. Except, the network is basically held together with hopes and dreams so a common issue is network just won't see the printer or lose the configuration and basic users can't fix it. IT guys have sent me three different sets of instructions how to fix it, none of them work, and one of them got me flagged by offsite IT for trying to do something malicious. So now when anyone asks for help printing a document I just tell them to keep trying a different computer until they get one that works.

[–] Rakonat@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago

I'm unofficial IT in my workplace cause our IT guys are corporate indoctrinated so just utterly incapable of communicating with other departments that aren't front office of management. Assuming it's not a network setting or printer screwing up, most of my IT assistance starts with 'Read it back to me' so I can see where they are at. Had one new girl, maybe 22ish, read the sentence to me three times before she even considered the thought she was doing something wrong.

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[–] CXORA@aussie.zone 102 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Hey man, try reading the words on the screen above the inputs.

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[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 82 points 1 week ago (7 children)

yyyy-mm-dd supremacy

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