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Justice Department leadership is prepared to use its rule-making authority to declare transgender people as mentally ill and deprive them of their Second Amendment right to possess firearms, according to two Justice officials who shared internal discussions with CNN.

Deliberations at the highest levels of the DOJ follow the recent mass shooting at Annunciation Catholic Church in Minneapolis, an attack police say was carried out by a 23-year-old former student at the church’s school who may have been a transgender person or a de-transitioned individual. Two children were killed in the attack, and 21 others were injured.

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[–] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 hours ago

I thought the official position of the government was that transgender people didn't exist

[–] WanderWisley@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago

And this fixes the economy how? And this releases the Epstein files how? And this helps climate change how? And this stops the war in Ukraine how? And this stops the genocide in Gaza how?

[–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 11 points 1 day ago
[–] BigMacHole@sopuli.xyz 15 points 1 day ago

We MUST allow Mentally Defective Americans to Own guns but ONLY if they're Shooting up Schools and Churches! OTHERWISE we need to TAKE THEIR GUNS AWAY!

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 157 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Labelling the groups they hate as mentally defective is very much a Nazi move.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago (2 children)

We can't have mentally ill people breeding, we better start issuing pregnancy licenses that everyone has to apply for.

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[–] CubitOom@infosec.pub 93 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Operation Blazing Sword is a grass-roots organization dedicated to helping everyone, but especially queer people, become responsible firearm owners.

[–] wheezy@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Haven't heard of that. But another option is the SRA (socialist rifle association). Its a nationwide version of the NRA for socialist/leftists. They are not activist but strictly an organization for learning firearm safety and use. Highly recommend from my experience with my local SRA.

Our membership has exploded since the election. And obviously a lot of our members are from the queer community.

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[–] Mamdani_Da_Savior@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago (11 children)

As a gun owner, this is my promise for America

If you come for my guns, we will have a gun fight, don't worry I know I'll lose, but I won't be alive when you put dirty hands on my guns.

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The problem is, everyone has this fantasy storyboard in their heads of the cops showing up going door-to-door with their MP5s and riot shields in a nice neat line loudly announcing their intentions. That is absolutely not how gun confiscation is going to work.

Instead, once they've declared that trans people or Democrats or whoever else are now blanket banned from owning guns, any time you interact with the police, let's just say during a (probably spurious) traffic stop, your name will come up on their little computer as a "person prohibited" and they'll put you in handcuffs and stuff you in the back of a police car right then. And then go break into your house and toss it looking for guns when you're not there to stop them. There will be no fight. You'll already be under arrest for something else. They'll find (or plant) whatever they want, and charge you with an additional nine hundred crimes that are all rewordings of the same thing, and put you in jail. When they come up to you they're not going to be talking about guns, they're going to start off with some low-grade bullshit you think you can talk yourself out of but use that as a pretext to lock you up for your guns.

There will be no headlines of jack booted thugs going around systematically kicking in innocent people's doors and garnering a bunch of negative press for themselves that people can rally themselves around. There will be individual local little news articles, one at a time, all along the lines of "Arsenal Of Illegal Weapons Found in [town name] Man's Home/Car By Brave Policemen After Conducting Traffic Stop, One Of Which Was a High Capacity Black Semiautomatic AR Glock Assault Child-Shooter," with an article underneath carefully spin-doctored to slander the individual in question as a mentally unstable transgendered pot smoking child grooming terrorist. They'll do this one at a time, forever, even long after they've gotten everyone the think they wanted to get.

The only defense against that is to assume that any time a cop looks in your direction you need to lock and load right then and there and initiate a fight for your life. Even if you win, you'll automatically be the bad guy.

Are you ready for that?

Is anyone ready for that?

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Lotta people willing to arrest people who are unarmed for a nice paycheck, a lot less are willing to die for that paycheck.

The left needs to be armed like yesterday, and we need to be protesting armed to the teeth. Watch how magically the police and ice let them be.

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[–] ssroxnak@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Don't worry, everyone! The red flag laws will make this legal!

[–] ozymandias@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago

don’t forget trump’s executive order to forcibly imprison mentally ill and homeless people

[–] Typhoon@lemmy.ca 32 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Taking their guns is only the first step against transfolk. Once they're declared mentally unwell they'll start locking them up and forcing treatment on them.

[–] Vupware@lemmy.zip 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

As supported by the previous executive order that authorizes institutionalization of homeless and mentally ill people.

I am so disgusted by this wretched administration.

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

They’re going to expand civil commitment. “Trump derangement syndrome” as a diagnosable illness.

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[–] Rooskie91@discuss.online 93 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The right is about to learn the very important lesson that support of gun control does not necessarily imply a lack of gun ownership.

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[–] Brutticus@midwest.social 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Patches@ttrpg.network 15 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Really??

You don't think it has already begun?

[–] Leather@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Hey Human, be cool. Not everyone gets it at the same time. Let's form coalition.

[–] blindbunny@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 day ago

🛎️🛎️🛎️

This guy gets it

[–] mateofeo85@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

MORTAL KOMBAT!!!

[–] switcheroo@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago

Mentally defective? Voting republicunt is mentally defective!

Nice distraction though: RELEASE THE EPSTEIN FILES!!!

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

Can't ban guns, won't work.

Hey, I know. Let's ban transgendered people. That will work.

[–] 0ops@piefed.zip 47 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Where's the "shall not be infringed" crowd?

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 38 points 2 days ago

Standing right here. I'd also like to know what part of due process this is, exactly.

[–] theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 53 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

The right has never supported gun ownership for groups they consider outside "American identity" just look at Reagan's actions while governor.

[–] mitch@piefed.mitch.science 13 points 1 day ago

White People: "guns are for everyone! That's why there is a second amendment. SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED."

Black Panthers: "oh ok carries unloaded guns'

White People: "wait actually now there are limits"

[–] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The NRA is going to all be over this right? Right?

Narrator: The NRA in fact did not get all over it

[–] habitualcynic@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago

Surprisingly, seems like they are. Too soon to be sure of course. https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/05/politics/nra-transgender-gun-control

[–] KeavesSharpi@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And now we get to the fascists beginning to disarm their enemies phase. After that it won't be long before they label registered Democrats as mentally defective.

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[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

sigh All of this is a distraction scheme. He's distracting from how poorly the people are doing economically.

We can't let trump control the narrative like that. We have to shift the narrative back to the economy every time something like this comes up.

"Trump promised we'd have well-paying jobs again. Where are they?"

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I dunno if you're in the US or not, but here, the whole information pipe is so screwed up.

Rage? You feed the trolls, and feed the algorithms/news.

Be reasonable like that? No one hears you. Boring statements don't sell ads. And Trump has 'hacked' that attention economy pretty good.

...So you aren't wrong, but I'm convinced that's a useless sentiment now. I'm more into the "where are the Epstein files" meme because uncovering pedophile conspiracies are a core MAGA tenant. It's the only thing that will get through and bust glass.

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[–] Montreal_Metro@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

How are they gonna take away their guns if they are armed? Hahaha

[–] CircaV@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Set up snitch lines for snitching on trans people, get medical doctor loyalists to snitch on trans people, they can find out who is trans pretty easily, then use ICE to sweep them up.

[–] Sunflier@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

They have a corporation already doing this: setting up a centralized database for monitoring all citizens. It's called Palantir (Stock ticker: PLTR). So, if that database can easily have a boolian value for transgender. Then, all they got to do is operate off that database for finding which transgender persons have a gun, check that database to see if the person is unable to buy one because they're marked as ~~Jew~~ transgender, and consult that database when it comes time to round up the ~~Jews~~ transgender people for confinement in internment camps.

Not saying this is anything but evil, but they are putting the tools of genocide together now. With this, they'll label the undesirables with a gold star that people won't be able to not wear, they just won't know its there. But, facial recognition technology will be able to take care of any incongruities.

[–] CircaV@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Will they go after their own citizens at the same time as attacking Vzla, Canada, Greenland, Panama (take your pick) - what does Germany in WWII say?

[–] Sunflier@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago

We didn't have nuclear warheads

-The Nazis the first time around

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[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

JEFFERY EPSTEIN

RELEASE THE FILES SO WE CAN GET ON WITH THE PUBLIC EXECUTIONS

Every politician that is not pushing for the release is most likely complicit in this global child sex trafficking ring.

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