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[–] zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

What a total dick. Lots of people with high end PCs are all saying how it runs like shit, so what's the next excuse?

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 2 points 20 minutes ago

They're not premium gamers. It's about what's inside your soul, not the kind of PC you have.

[–] DarkAri@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Such a bad argument. There is no reason for the game to not support lower end hardware except for lazy development. Not a good sign for the future of borderlands. This is also the type of game that really sucks if you don't get a locked 60 FPS. Borderlands 3 is still a laggy mess on my steam deck. Sometimes it just stutters forever. Constantly generating shaders or something. There is no reason for it to be that way and lowering the setting has almost no effect on the actual performance. This is 100% the fault of the devs. They are pushing half complete products to market not the consumer.

Also as many others have stated, not everyone has $4000 to drop on a PC. My most powerful machine is a Skylake processor with a 1070. It runs most games fine, it's just the handful of unoptimized unreal engine games that run badly. I have nearly limitless options to buy other games from devs who actually care about us poorer folk. A 4070 ti is like 800-1000 rn. Probably won't even run this game well. This is in an age where we have had nearly 100% inflation in a few years. Most people can barely afford to buy a car without spending half of their paycheck. They should be trying to make their games work on older hardware now more than ever. Ram is cheap, there are some things you can work around. It's usually not worth it to target low RAM devices, but there is really no good reason for you game to not scale well to lower end GPUs. You don't have to have only 4k textures on disk. You can easily automate a process to create lower poly, and lower resolution textures, implement modest lighting systems. It's pretty easy in relation to other things. Cpus are mid, you shouldn't necessarily target 10 year old CPUs if it's going to make the game worse but your game shouldn't be so unoptimized that you need 5.5 ghz on a single core to get 60 fps. You should at least have a proper lod system in place so that you can support lower end GPUs in many cases where it's not very difficult.

The issue with many of these modern triple AAA games is they are trying to avoid as much work as possible. They are trying to avoid targeting lower end hardware because it's a bit of work and they are struggling to finish their games. They need to plan for these things from the start and work them into their process.

[–] Evotech@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago

Battlefield 6 ran like butter. What’s your excuse

[–] Taldan@lemmy.world 9 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

There aren't enough monster truck owners to support his game. If he gets his wish, Gearbox is going to lose a whole lot of money

The reality is that it is a mass market game. It needs mass market adoption. Currently much of the market is locked out due to performance issues

[–] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 3 points 2 hours ago

Everyone without a 5090 should immediately refund the game and use these remarks as the justification.

[–] umbraroze@slrpnk.net 6 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

There aren't that many Premium™ Gamers®, and trying to pretend that that is, like, a legitimate target demographic to pander to is just sad, folks.

(The funniest gamer influencer backlash I've seen lately was against some YouTuber who blew ~$2K on gaming desk and a chair and called it a "minimalist" setup. People at large rightfully went "are you shitting me".)

[–] Evotech@lemmy.world 7 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

I mean minimalism is a style, not your budget

Minimalist != minimal budget

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 0 points 2 hours ago

it's wild to me that there are people who still not only let this man talk be first place, but write down the shit that come out of his stupid face and report on it.

[–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 16 points 6 hours ago

I can't decide if the explanation that "our shitty game is made for premium gamers" is more or less absurd than EA charging 80 bucks for a game with most of its characters still locked would "provide players with a sense of pride and accomplishment".

[–] Surp@lemmy.world 5 points 5 hours ago

Unfortunately it doesn't matter what any of us say...the damage is done. I saw something like 200k online on steam. Unless most of them refund the negative reviews are meaningless. Pretend it was only 200k on steam and they bought just the "shitty" $70 version. ...who knows how many bought on other platforms as well. They made a lot of money already is all I'm saying and I wish they didn't. Games junk.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 5 points 5 hours ago

Make it perform well, then we can talk premium.

[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 5 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

It's basically the "AAAA-game" bit again

[–] Evotech@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

AAAA gamers

[–] SuperSpruce@lemmy.zip 6 points 6 hours ago

It's more akin to trying to drive a semi truck with a semi truck motor but then something drops and there's a ton of friction like an unintentional tractor pull. Even the best chips on the market display subpar performance.

[–] PieMePlenty@lemmy.world 13 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

So anyway, you guys excited for Hades 2?

[–] Yupa@ani.social 1 points 1 hour ago

Hell yeah! Recently finished Clair Obscur, now playing Silksong, and waiting for Hades 2, this year is packed with awesome indies!

[–] zebidiah@lemmy.ca 4 points 5 hours ago

...is he trying to promote the game by acting like one of its shitty characters?

[–] chrislowles@lemmy.zip 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Randy looks at Borderlands 4 actually performing somewhat well critically and says NOT IF I HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH IT

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

It's what he does best.

[–] MrJ199414@lemmy.world 15 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

They toned down the humor, which imo wasn't the problem they needed to write better jokes, and write better villains.

The entire plot feels like an extra long side mission which is basically, "Go Rescue Lilith." They have been teasing something "big" is coming and that they need to prepare for war since the pre sequel. We have gotten now two new main installments, two "tales", and a fucking spin-off since then. Yet they still keep teasing this "big" thing. I wish they'd move the narrative along already.

[–] luciferofastora@feddit.org 6 points 6 hours ago

Once that big thing happens, they can no longer milk the anticipation

[–] philosloppy@lemmy.world 32 points 13 hours ago

borderlands

premium

lol

lmao

rofl

[–] normalexit@lemmy.world 21 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

I played lots of borderlands 2 with my friends back in the day it was pretty fun.

Three came out, played it for a bit, but it was just more of the same and somehow worse. Then I watched that God awful movie.

I think I'm over the franchise, but maybe here in a few years I'll pick it up for $5 in a summer sale.

[–] CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago

I found 1 and 2 were games I could both replay at least once. With 2 the only bad bit to replay is bricks area where the devs just spammed a ton of very spongy enemies in a big map. 3 had more fun vault hunters mechanically but even during the first playthrough so much of it feels like filler content (like literally ALL of Hammerlocks area) and the final boss is somehow even more dissapointing than BL1, trying to play through a second time is at least 2/3 "Oh god not this bit again".

[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 1 points 7 hours ago

It was out free, but had some spyware or something, so I refused it for free...

[–] Barbarian@sh.itjust.works 7 points 13 hours ago

I adored the presequel, did so many interesting things. The verticality, stomp attacks and oxygen masks were awesome. Also the low grav meant the maps could be way more varied and interesting.

Waited for the reviews for the third (never pre-order, always wait for reviews!) and it just seemed so... mid. Definitely happy I dropped out of that franchise when I did.

[–] Bennyboybumberchums@lemmy.world -2 points 5 hours ago

Anyone who bought this game, is a moron. No ifs, no ands, no buts. Randy is a fucking prick, and made no secret of his feelings towards gamers right before the game came out. No one should have spent a single penny on this dogshit.

[–] kuribo@aussie.zone 56 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Dude really felt the need to insult his customers. He could have said it’s a premium game for premium machines, but instead he decided he wanted to insult people who can’t play it and suggest they are less than the premium people who can.

2K needs to get this nut away from the mic.

[–] luciferofastora@feddit.org 3 points 6 hours ago

Mate's been huffing his own farts for too long and started thinking they don't smell

[–] xep@discuss.online 55 points 18 hours ago

A game that looks like BL4 shouldn't run like Cyberpunk 2077 with ray tracing turned on.

[–] stringere@sh.itjust.works 20 points 15 hours ago

Bought it to try n Linux. I don't have the greatest video card but I can play Dune: Awakening, Helldivers 2, Monster Hunter Wikds, Avowed, Black Myth: Wukong...

Borderlands 4 was stuttering on the barely animated character select. I lowered settings all as low as possible and it was still unplayable with delayed/missed input and stuttering.

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 32 points 18 hours ago

Sucker game made for sucker gamers.

Are you inclined to blame yourself for the obvious failings of a gaming corporation? Smash that buy button now!

[–] ChairmanMeow@programming.dev 39 points 19 hours ago (7 children)

It's poorly optimized UE5 slop. Looks like shit, plays like shit.

Hard pass.

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[–] fuzzywombat@lemmy.world 21 points 17 hours ago (3 children)

I was planning on picking up B4 when the GOTY edition goes on sale for $20-30 couple years from now. I figured performance issues will be solved by then. Now I think I'll pass.

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[–] UnsavoryMollusk@lemmy.world 50 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

That's nice, he is kind enough to tell us that we should not buy his game if we do not have a monster gpu. He is only excluding a very small portion of gamers after all !

Let's look at the Valve's hardware survey.

Wait...

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