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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 9 points 6 hours ago

Number 1 reason is the people selling it are far more excited by it than the people having to use it.

I used to like Sabine but she's a hack.

[–] zzx@lemmy.world 21 points 8 hours ago (3 children)

Fuck Sabrine Hoffsteader. She's an idiot and you should get your news from someone else. Stupid grifter

[–] ComradeRachel@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 3 hours ago

Was really disappointed when she came out to be transphobic.

[–] k0e3@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 hours ago

Just from the thumbnail alone I was hesitant to check out the video. I'm glad I found this comment.

[–] polle@feddit.org 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Do you have some Information about this?

[–] Krudler@lemmy.world 8 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

The facts are:

She has a PhD in theoretical physics. She could not find meaningful employment in particle physics. Unless somebody can correct me, she's produced little if anything substantive to the field.

In the last several years she has engaged in attacks against the public trust for science. She engages the conspiratorial-minded viewers who're looking for any reason to disavow scientific knowledge.

One example was putting on scripted theatrics while reading a self-penned letter fraudulently claimed was from a prominent scientist, who's identity and details of course must be kept totally secret. Reading out this "bombshell letter" was a transparent children's play, where the held-anonymous writer magically agreed with every one of her endless, bleating refrains, that most scientific research is "bullshit".

Then her support for Eric Weinstein who is a complete grifting con-man with an "entertainment" publishing that he fraudulently describes as both a "paper" and a credible physical theory. It was literally released on April 1 and directly in it, it tells you it is a work of fiction meant for entertainment, and like all good science (/s) may not be used, incorporated into other works, or improved upon. It's a complete piece of hogwash, and every credible physicist from here to Mars has described as not fit to wipe fecal matter; not a theory, not even science.

Then there's all the Theil money.

Check out Professor Dave on YT, he just fucking obliterates her.

Edit

First https://youtu.be/70vYj1KPyT4

Second and better https://youtu.be/nJjPH3TQif0

Third and best, 3.5 hours of clobbering with qualified physicists https://youtu.be/oipI5TQ54tA

[–] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I work in finance (IT side) if the bubble is gonna burst all the ppl making money off of it haven't got the memo and I trust their collective intelligence over this woman.

[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 7 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

All the people making money off of it are trying to maximize profit, as always.
As soon as they see the downward trend they'll dump.
Or sink.

[–] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Of which there's no sign of. I agree it's a bubble. I don't see it popping yet in my day to day.

[–] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 4 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Basically the bubble IS the sentiment of the finance bro you are talking about.
If you work in IT, you are probably already aware that yes, AI could do a lot of shit, but it's going to have serious downsides that might now be surmountable economically. Listen to the Tech Bros and they are promising the moon, surely you can tell they're already have been running out of steam since GPT4 level. We're not seeing 30% improvements, they're fighting for single digit improvements in synthetic benchmarks.

We've seen this exhuberance before, history is absolutely littered with the corpse of the greedy money parasites who inflate the price of everything with their hype and try to get away with the bag before it all burns down.

When millions play chicken with a train it's going to lead to a lot of "corrections" down the line, distortions and corrections that we are going to suffer from while they wisk away to their crypto bro bunkers leaving us to deal with their shit.

This is so predictable and obvious, our politicians "sleeping" at the wheel, paid off to look the other way, while they'll get advance warning on their own gambles before it comes crashing down on us.

What a corrupt system, next time it fucks up, no bailout, these duckers can line up against the wall and their bunkers can get those 10 ton suppositories.

[–] QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

If you are so sure why aren't you aiming to profit off of this certainty?

[–] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Because I'm not some money parasite who bets on other people failing ?
I think the stock market is an abomination and all those who participate are deeply immoral persons.
This includes me, as my pension fund is buying and encouraging this wretched, humanity churning planet destroying garbage.

[–] QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Maybe be less certain of what is going on if that's your take on the economy. Predicting when bubbles pop is neigh impossible.

[–] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

There's a difference between "AI is a bubble" and "The AI bubble will pop 2025-10-20 05h34:14.115" and "I can stay solvent longer than the market can stay irrationnal" etc.. etc..

We can clearly see, the most stupidest people on the planet (gamblers) throwing money at things they don't understand because of hype, FOMO and herd mentality, this happens REALLY often in history and even if I didn't know way too much about how AI works, I could still point at this and say, wow, 90% of AI startup are going to crash and burn totally trying to blitzscale their impossible idea.

They're all trying to use the crack uber business model with dotcom exhuberrance, there is no ending that doesn't end in tears for MOST of us, even the innocent and uninvolved, they will take us all over the cliff with them and I hope we crucify the winners (thieves) before they disappear in their bunkers.

Until then we will also have to suffer incessant "OMG AI bubble gonna pop articles" EVERY WEEK until it does pop.

[–] arararagi@ani.social 22 points 16 hours ago

six rounds of funding without making any money should be proof enough, an industry can't be entirely made of unicorns.

[–] biofaust@lemmy.world 13 points 17 hours ago

NVIDIA is already paying podcasters and YT channels to cover Isaac and Jetson, so I guess the shovel seller is already seeing itself out.

[–] melfie@lemy.lol 11 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (4 children)

I enjoyed Sabine’s analysis in another video that continuing to make increasingly larger models with more compute is about as effective as continuing to make larger and larger particle accelerators. Come on, bro, this million km Gigantic Hadron Collider will finally get us to the TOE. Just one more trillion, bro.

[–] tomalley8342@lemmy.world 16 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

Hasn't Sabine been getting in some hot water about promoting academic skepticism and making authoritative claims on fields well outside of her expertise?

[–] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 7 points 10 hours ago

Personal experience as some of her views have come across my viewing habits is she is as full of shit at the next one. She passes off conjecture as fact.

[–] nialv7@lemmy.world 6 points 10 hours ago

She has also peddled transphobic talking points

[–] AFaithfulNihilist@lemmy.world 29 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Every particle accelerator that has been built has paid for itself in research value. There's basically nothing that comes out of AI research except the need for a bigger model.

The comparison is poor. Particle accelerators are science, LLMs do not produce science.

That's not to say that we couldn't build LLMS that would be useful for scientific purposes but we're not. That is not the function or the goal of the people building these things.

[–] melfie@lemy.lol 9 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Not really my area of expertise, but this article lays out her perspective on this for anyone who isn’t aware: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-world-doesnt-need-a-new-gigantic-particle-collider/

TL;DR - Many times the cost of the LHC and unlike the LHC, the gains are likely to be incremental instead of revolutionary. The same funding could do much more good elsewhere.

To your point, agreed that even small, incremental gains for science are more valuable than what we are likely to get from AI.

[–] dangrousperson@feddit.org 4 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Sure, but the waste of AI is so much worse while providing close to no benefits at all (or probably even damage society as a whole).

Just to put this in perspective: OpenAI alone had a $40 Billion funding round in March this year. That is enough to build that huge particle accelerator and run it for 20 years. OpenAI burned that money in 6 months (they needed another $40 Billion in funding in August) and all they have to show for it is GPT 5 which is just more of the same.

Sure other Science Projects could probably do a lot more with the 40 Billion, but the complete waste of resources in the persuit of AI isn't comparable to ground breaking Physics experiments which actually helps further our understanding of the universe and the very fabric of reality.

[–] melfie@lemy.lol -1 points 10 hours ago

I can’t really disagree. Sabine is right that they’re similar situations on the surface in that the both represent large investments for extremely incremental gains, but AI takes the cost and grift to a whole different level while offering gains that have laughable value in comparison to even a single small step forward in our understanding of fundamental physics.

[–] sircac@lemmy.world 5 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Every step towards the next generation of colliders needs to be deeply justified about the falsifiables it will check and their interest to the current knowledge before being able to see a cent for it, and the expected energies of the TOE are well known to not be reachable with current means and technology, that's not what they are promising ever, but what they do they fulfill, often, beyond predictions, to not mention the huge return basic research has always had in the long term to humanity... nope, I am afraid that I do not find it a good analogy at all. EDIT: but, yes, such strategy of making it bigger does not work anymore, so collider proposals go usually in other directions...

[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 5 points 17 hours ago

Except that’s not at all what they’re doing. Most of the impact studies are already outdated, and the models are shrinking and becoming more efficient.

Used to love Sabine, but the channel’s been taken over by sloppy clickbait.

[–] Hector@lemmy.world 143 points 1 day ago (27 children)

If the last 5 years has taught me anything, it is that stock prices are completely divorced from the realities of the fundamentals of business. It is a clown economy and more like a casino then an honest measure of what a stock is worth. Especially with tech.

AI is way overhyped, to a level we perhaps have never seen before, but I would not expect the stock prices too reflect that.

Look at Tesla. The intrinsic value was no more than 10 billion before he started sieg heiling on national TV and alienated half of the western world.

What will continue to drive the stock prices is the support or acquiescence of governments to it. Do you the United States and the rest that follow.

[–] Jason2357@lemmy.ca 3 points 16 hours ago

It's gambling on who might stumble on AGI, not building anything.

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