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Do you have the slightest idea how little that narrows it down?
The birth defect line actually narrows it down pretty well, depleted uranium concerns are basically bullshit so that largely narrows it down to Vietnam, Laos, and Cambodia.
Everyone else either just got bombed to shit or just got done killing 25 million Chinese, Filipino, and Korean people.
Fallujah wants a word.
Eh, I mean, I'd rather not have DU dust everywhere. It is still all alpha emitter, after all. Plus, it's a heavy metal.
DU concerns with tank rounds are bullshit. With autocannon rounds, the dispersion and amount may actually be harmful.
To people that inhale dust particles from fragmented rounds possibly, but that's simply not a generational concern.
I think one day we'll find out any problems largely come from all the horrificly nasty chemicals that just so happen to be included by requirement in modern propellents and explosives as they inevitably make their way into the water supply and soil. While DU might not make that problem better, it's going to be a fraction of the contamination from a modern bombing campaign.
And a fraction of a fraction of the damage done by the kind of bombing Vietnam, Cambodia, and Laos suffered.
Someone bought the propaganda, I see. You're right, DU is harmless to coat a country in, and all the cleanup efforts are only to clean away all non-DU contaminated soil. It's straight up humanitarian work they're doing!
"For you, the day Bison graced your village was the most important day of your life. But for me? It was Tuesday."
It was a Thursday, you monster!
Wednesday
Eh, it was a shitty village anyway. I'm sure Miss Addams had her reasons 🤷
They didn't like her silly dance.
Also, yes, fuck all military. Color me brave, but all military sucks very bad and is cancer on the body of Earth, not just American.
No war but class war.
We wouldn't even need a military if nobody became a soldier.
They are literally the solution to the problem they cause themselves.
Exactly.
"We protect you"...from guys like you on the other side? Cool, thanks.
That stance is pure idealism. Yeah sure, it'd be great not to spend the money or emit CO2 just to make sure we don't get invaded*, but since that is a risk, and you can't just kumbaya it away.
Then, since having a military is at minima a defensive imperative, how is wanting to be a defender anything close to bad? Granted, some armies are pure ideological cancer, but that does not define what an army is, and it's not a global issue.
To get straight to the moral dichotomy of our time, how can you say that the English army who defended itself against the Wehrmacht were the same as the Wehrmacht? I'm not trying to corner you or being disingenuous, I don't get how you can say that all armies are somewhat the same
- (this doesn't apply to the US military which is pure bloat)
Hot take: Wehrmacht fought a defensive war. Everyone fights a defensive war.
Wehrmacht tried to defend and secure the future of Arian race, they defended themselves against a perceived threat of Jews overrunning them.
English, while fighting fiercely against Germans, still militarily held their colony in India, protecting the interests of the crown.
Israeli army is now committing genocide, repeatedly and casually doing war crimes - in the name of protection, of course.
Every army, given the chance, will claim defensive interest in the war that's to come. That's why biggest war aggressor countries have Ministries of Defence, not Ministries of Offence.
There are all kinds of institutions out there that can help mediate demilitarization. Yet leaders of many countries don't want that, and we should force them to do so - primarily through the inside democratic pressure, whenever possible.
To add to this, we renamed our department of war to the department of defense.
American military is significantly worse though. Most militarys aren't invading other countries.
American military just has enough power to project, while the government enjoys almost no backlash for committing war crimes, because what, are you going to sanction or sour relarionships with the biggest economy in the world?
It's not just army, it's an entire system built on imperialism and carte blanche to do anything. Military is just an instrument, and it will do the same in any other country under similar circumstances.
Russia bullies Ukraine. China bullies fleets in South China sea. Pre-WW2 Japan was going mad in a quest to conquer Asia, before being roughly downed by the bigger US - for its own interest, of course. Pretty much any big economy, given a chance, will do this. That's how politics works, and military is an easy way to project power onto other countries, and bully the hell out of them.
Which is why it has to be abolished.
vietnam war? sounds patriotic 🇱🇷🇱🇷🦅🦅🦅 who won? 🦅
Nobody ever wins, but someone always profits.
War is good for business.
Peace decidedly is not. Either a rare Ferengi L or humans are literally more evil than the Ferengi.
In some ways, humans are worse. At least Ferengi have a universal code they all adhere to and anyone who doesn't is treated like a pariah. Imagine if Republicans had to actually be beholden to the law and knew they had to because that's how society worked.
Surely it's the patriotic story of how the fort city of Vietnam, Amabama was won from the British. /s
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Got in a little hometown jam
So they put a rifle in my hands
Send me off to a foreign land
To go and kill the yellow man
Reagan: make that my campaign song!
The better question would be, 'which one?'
"We were stopping communism, you ungrateful slanteye! And you're welcome!"
Kissinger, is that you?
Kissinger is no longer available for comment.
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I don't know what year the Colonial Marines invaded Vietnam, but color me impressed...
Just a little tomfoolery
“Because I could. Because you fell for it.” - Pong Krell
Damn bro, I didn’t realize Henry Pissinger had a body double.
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