Also "it's hard because it's like how to get out of a place filled with only trees and Republicans?"
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Vermont?
This is the way.
Republican governor still, not as solid as you'd think.
He may be a member of the Republican party but if you just look at his record as governor, you'd probably guess he's a Democrat. Pro choice, trans rights, thoroughly anti Trump, and even a lot of his tax cuts seem to prioritize relief for the working poor rather than the ~~leech~~ investor class.
Also, this is anecdotal but I've spent some time in Vermont and the conservatives there who I met were by and large reasonable, open-minded, and anti-Trump (there were a couple of exceptions but nowhere is perfect).
Yeah Vermont is hippie hillbillies
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Has a general prejudice against city people.
Seattle, one hopes, is still green and bookish
Seattle has its own racism problem unfortunately
If you think Seattle's race relations are on the same level or even close to any red state then I sincerely doubt you've ever left Seattle or been to a red state.
There are racist people literally everywhere but not everywhere makes a culture out of being racist.
I lived in Texas most of my life. I wouldn't say race relations in seattle are as life threatening as they were capable of being in Texas but I would say racism is just as common.
Thanks for letting me know. Haven't been there in a few years, sad to hear it.
Against any particular group?
From my observations, and from what I have been told from people of this group in seattle, mostly african americans. You'd have to hear from other marginalized groups for more info as I am not familiar with their experience. It's less of the explicitly violent and threatening racism you see in the south and more of the "you're so articulate" style of racism. Lots of pearl clutching and car door locking if you know what I mean.
Isn't this just universal in America? This sounds like liberal racism, not republicans
Yes but it is particularly common in the PNW
That's the kind I'm used to, having grown up in that area. It's shitty, but has it changed in the last ten years? My area was north Seattle, where it's always been an issue.
I'm a couple hours north of Seattle, and the PNW is crawling with the Proud Boy type. I was doing memory care for people with downs syndrome and dementia, and we had to get the cops involved because somebody was prowling around the facility with a rifle slung over his back during the first trump presidency.
It's the same problems it's always had, but trump has deffo turned the volume up.
Gag me with a spoon. Sorry you had to handle that. You're right though, it's far worse everywhere.
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I was going to move to Portland but I hear it's a war zone lol
Yeah? Sounds like that's where people on the right side are needed, then.
Portland is a great city. I've been living in the UK for almost 4 years now and I've never been to a bookshop as good as Powell's, and the food there is at least twice as good as it ought to be, for what they charge.
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These places exist, but they are expensive as fuuuuuuuuck
I live near Asheville and fucking hell you are not kidding. The price creep has spread out in a 60 mile radius and just keeps getting worse. I can't even afford to live in my hometown anymore.
Ann Arbor here. Can confirm.
I heard a rumor that a tree grows in Brooklyn.
New England.
Man, I miss New England; gonna add living a few years out there, again, to my bucket-list.
Outside of a college town.
Not always true, Kent (home of Kent State University) is bright red. I live a little ways south of Kent and I drive thru there a few times a year to visit a friend, every time I go through there it's maga merch everywhere.
I want to complain about the percentage of freshman and sophmore CS majors that are hardcore right-wingers because of Musk and Zukerberg and gamergate.
middle of nowhere
Thats the problem, on average rurally living folks tend to be more conservative.
I think they mean really middle of nowhere, as in there's nobody around
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Rural places has a lot of conservatives, its not just the US.
Live next to some bears, they'll keep the conservatives away.
I was gonna ask "which kind" but it's definitely both.
Asheville and Boone NC
Those might be nice towns but at this point I'm staying away from any MAGA states, regardless of whether they have islands of sanity in them.
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After hurricane Helene? Good luck!
Atlanta. Just don't go past the perimeter.
From my experience in Slovenia, there are many Janezek fans and chauvinists everywhere but the capital (Ljubljana). In my whole life I met two people, who I consider actual leftists (excluding myself), one is my high school sociology professor (we call them professors instead of teachers, probably because most of our school's dildos will never seek decent higher education) and the other one lives in Ljubljana (hm).
But for some reason, we still have a government majority of mostly fanatics, who call themselves center left (they still did some competent things even if they are the democrats of Slovenia), the right wing party and their fans, with a minority of the actual left, who are still loosing popularity.
Edit: This is my shitty unnecessary rant I started, because I wanted to mention, that no country is actually different. Most people are sadly very right wing and the leftists and minorities can't really do anything about our rights being taken away, because the 200 year old laws still aren't updated to accommodate us.
There's some spots in the big nyc parks where you're surrounded by trees and can pretend you're not in a big city. That's all I've got.
Outside the city it gets surprisingly conservative sometimes. I knew someone who had family north of Albany, and their neighbor flew a confederate flag. Probably a maga flag now.
Uhhhh... did you all not see that Mango just told the Space Force that they need to relocate from Colorado to Alabama? You wanna talk about a blue state that's going to go dark blue, look no further.
Cascadia says “Hello”
I am legit having this dilemma now.
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