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[–] benderation@lemmy.zip 16 points 2 days ago (3 children)

It's a lot easier than people think, in my opinion.

Light is the main thing that sets your circadian rhythms. If you want to sleep at 10 PM, turn off the lights around that time. Fully dark. No phone. Maybe even blackout curtains. Better if it's every single night, including weekends.

Listen to music or a podcast if you're bored laying in the dark. But no light after the time you want to sleep.

You won't fall asleep at 10 the first night. Or the second night. But it'll slowly get earlier and earlier every night.

I've done this many times. When I worked early mornings, I easily adjusted to falling asleep at 8PM by shutting off all lights consistently every night around 7:45.

[–] howrar@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I've been sleeping at 9pm and waking up at 8am fairly consistently for several months now. Still waiting on that elusive 6am wake up time.

[–] oascany@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

11 hours of sleep a night sounds like heaven

[–] howrar@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I often wonder if it's worth being better rested at the expense of losing so many wakeful hours.

[–] oascany@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Yeah that's why I barely get 6 hours a night

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[–] Evotech@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Get a kid between 1-4 years old

[–] criss_cross@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

Get a newborn and you won't have to worry about sleeping at all!

[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago

Get a job with consistent hours that suit that kind of sleeping schedule.

Or do what I did, and find a job with hours they already fit your sleep habits. You can still stay up all night go to bed at 5 am every day, when your shift starts at 2! :D

[–] glitchdx@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

maintain a routine. Actually get up when your first alarm sounds. Do real physical activity during the day (every day, but less on off days is ok). Don't consume stimulants within 8 hours of bedtime. Don't consume too much depressants (this includes alcohol). DO NOT TAKE A SCREEN TO BED WITH YOU.

Hit most of these and you should be ok. If you're doing all of them and it still isn't working, maybe see a doctor.

[–] PetteriSkaffari@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Usually I will use a screen in bed, it helps me get to s

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 76 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (8 children)

Step 1) Exit Puberty

Step 2) Have a real socio-economic incentive to get up at 6am.

Step 3) Stop drinking caffeine after 4pm. Stop drinking booze after 8pm. (Stop drinking booze entirely, even)

Step 4) Gene Therapy

Step 5) Find out if you snore. If you're snoring, you're not going to get enough sleep during the night, which will make you groggy af in the early morning.

Step 6) At 6am, when your alarm clock goes off, it helps if you really, really, really need to pee.

[–] Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world 34 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

Step 6. Got it just drink before bed but then still have to piss middle of the night and then refill bladder mid night.

[–] UnculturedSwine@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Step 7: as soon as you get up, eat a meal. It helps set your internal alarm clock.

[–] Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago

Sorry I literally cannot. It makes me feel sick if I eat less than 1-2 hours after waking up.

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[–] axexrx@lemmy.world 19 points 4 days ago (6 children)

Some people are just genetically nocturnal. I had one grandparent who was early to bed. Everyone else in my family is somewhere between 12 and 2 am. As we get older we seem to need less and less sleep though. By 70, my nan was averaging 4 hours. Up to bed at 1, up a 5am to teach her 6am colege classes.

My other grandma slept 3x 2 hour bouts thought the day my whole life. 2hr nap around lunch, another after dinner, then shed be up til 2am, and 'go to bed' just to be back up around 4am. I think that had somwthing to do with her living most her life off the grid and having a wood stove got heat her whole life.

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[–] Doctorbllk@slrpnk.net 36 points 3 days ago (3 children)

For those actually wanting to do it: you start with the morning, not with the bed time. Regardless of when you go to sleep, gotta force yourself up a the time you want to wake. By the time 10p rolls around, now you're ready for sleep. But you're gonna start off with a very sleepy day.

[–] Gobbel2000@programming.dev 4 points 3 days ago

Exaxtly. I similarly feel that keeping a regular wakeup time is more effective than going to bed at a regular time.

[–] Pulptastic@midwest.social 7 points 3 days ago

Wake up on time no matter what, no naps, and follow good bed time hygiene (caffeine, screens, temperature, etc). It will take some time but your body will adjust.

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[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

It requires melatonin and a bunch of alarms.

Source: me

[–] andrew0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 46 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

Get a dog. I'm now forced to get up early to take it out, otherwise it will pee on my bed.

(Do not actually get a pet if you cannot take care of them.)

[–] andyburke@fedia.io 55 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Also, children will do this to you.

(DO NOT actually have children if you are just trying to wake up earlier.)

[–] ThePantser@sh.itjust.works 26 points 4 days ago (3 children)

A tamagotchi will also do this.

(DO get a tamagotchi if you are trying to wake earlier)

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[–] AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world 20 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Work in a manual labor job so you're tired enough that you actually WANT to go to bed at 10

[–] greedytacothief@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I wish I got to wake up at 6 when I worked a manual labor job. It was more like 4:45

[–] Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone 8 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Yeah manual labour jobs start earlier then getting up at 6 allows.

I'm always blown away by TV shows where everyone wakes up, has a shower sits down makes breakfast and leave for work at like 9

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[–] P1k1e@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

Lol bruh I wake up at 530 so my commute is an hour rather than an hour and a half. Only reason

[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago

Just keep going to bed later and later until you run the clock around.

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] nialv7@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I sleep for longer and get tired quicker but the schedule has never been regular. So not really

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[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] TomArrr@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Well done for making it to 10 😉

[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] TomArrr@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

After decades of thinking I couldn’t do this it was rather easy in the end. I just started being more consistent with bedtime and not napping.

I also got into running, rock climbing, and being outdoors more often. Now I wake up before my alarm.

[–] LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Work so fucking hard during the day, to utter exhaustion , every muscle in your body is trembling from overexertion & your brain is exhausted too. You finally get home, take a shower, and as soon as your head hits the pillow you are OUT. You will sleep DEEPLY and wake up refreshed and ready to do it all over again.

Ask me how I know 😜

[–] doingthestuff@lemy.lol 18 points 3 days ago

My wife has to be at work before 5 every day. We need to keep making our mortgage payment because paying off our shitty house is our best hope at maybe at least a partial retirement before I die. If the house is paid off, and I'm able to collect social security, maybe I'll be able to be able to only work part time. I have no retirement funds

So we're both up around 4 every day. And in bed between 8 & 9p. If you just get up early every day because you have to, at some point you're too tired to stay up late. The answer is necessity and responsibility.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 22 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Early to rise and early to bed makes a man healthy but socially dead.

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[–] abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Simple: exhaust yourself enough over several days until you do that naturally.

[–] sausager@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Or just age

-old man

[–] generic_computers@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 days ago

I need to get to work at 7:30a. I used to complain about it, but eventually I got used to winding down at 9:30p and going to bed by 10.

Set my alarm, get up early and go to work.

It sucked at first, but you get used to it.

Also, I have a big cup of coffee in the morning, that helps.

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 17 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Unironically, touching grass is how you can do this.

Going camping for several days without screen time can help reset your circadian rhythm to normal.

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[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

I go to bed at 10, get up at 2, watch TV for an hour, go back to bed and get up at 8-830

[–] aceshigh@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Why would you want to? No reason to work against yourself. Learn your body rhythm and try to create a life that supports it.

The funny thing is that if everything is going okayish in your life, you can become one of these people by going to bed at 10 and waking up at 6. I'm willing to bet your life is not going okayish, though

[–] Anissem@lemmy.ml 17 points 4 days ago (3 children)

This just happened naturally to me as I got old…

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[–] lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I'm reading this at 11pm so don't ask me

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[–] BeefandSquints@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 4 days ago (4 children)

It was the fucking worst but I started waking up early every day and then I added running to it. After about 6 months I fully transformed into a morning person. The second I retire, I'm going back, I miss the night.

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