this post was submitted on 07 Oct 2025
249 points (98.4% liked)

Buy European

7309 readers
224 users here now

Overview:

The community to discuss buying European goods and services.


Matrix Chat of this community


Rules:

  • Be kind to each other, and argue in good faith. No direct insults nor disrespectful and condescending comments.

  • Do not use this community to promote Nationalism/Euronationalism. This community is for discussing European products/services and news related to that. For other topics the following might be of interest:

  • Include a disclaimer at the bottom of the post if you're affiliated with the recommendation.

  • No russian suggestions.

Feddit.uk's instance rules apply:

  • No racism, sexism, homophobia, transphobia or xenophobia.
  • No incitement of violence or promotion of violent ideologies.
  • No harassment, dogpiling or doxxing of other users.
  • Do not share intentionally false or misleading information.
  • Do not spam or abuse network features.
  • Alt accounts are permitted, but all accounts must list each other in their bios.
  • No generative AI content.

Useful Websites

Benefits of Buying Local:

local investment, job creation, innovation, increased competition, more redundancy.

European Instances

Lemmy:

Friendica:

Matrix:


Related Communities:

Buy Local:

Continents:

European:

Buying and Selling:

Boycott:

Countries:

Companies:

Stop Publisher Kill Switch in Games Practice:


Banner credits: BYTEAlliance


founded 8 months ago
MODERATORS
 

Today weโ€™re sharing some truly exciting news: Arduino has entered into an agreement to join the Qualcomm Technologies, Inc. family! This is a huge step in our journey โ€“ one that allows us to keep growing, thriving, and making technology accessible to everyone, while bringing our values of openness, simplicity, and community spirit to an [โ€ฆ]

top 35 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[โ€“] supernight52@lemmy.world 181 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[โ€“] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 54 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Yes, but i havent bough a genuine Arduino for like a decade. Thats when they started upping the prices to ridiculous levels. Just buy a 1:1 clone from any of the many other brands.

[โ€“] cecilkorik@lemmy.ca 39 points 1 week ago (3 children)

They don't even make the chips anyway. Atmel makes the chips, although there are lots of clones of those too I'm pretty sure. Arduino just standardized the design of the board and the software. But the lovely thing about standards is that literally anyone can follow the standard. This is why we like standards. I thank Arduino for creating one. And I wish they would still be around to create more, but if they're going to turn evil, we can just drop them like a hot potato and keep using their standards.

Yup. The board designs are open, the IDE is open, the wiki is open, so nothing keeping me with the brand

[โ€“] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Fun fact: Arduino Uno form factor boards have a gap between pins 7 and 8 of less than 0.1 inch. This was a careless mistake in EagleCAD, but it went to production and a lot of boards and shields were made, so it had to be preserved. To the point that specially molded pin headers that include that gap have been manufactured.

[โ€“] XTL@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

More likely it's lock in and a lie.

Physical lock-in...in an open source design?

Thatโ€™s reassuring, thanks for pointing it out:)

[โ€“] Eheran@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

If only they actually developed further instead of staying at that extremely low end for SO long. They could have partnered with Paul Stoffregen (Teensy) or whoever and pushed far further over the years.

Hearing them talk about growing is super odd in this context. It looked like they just wanted to chill the whole time.

The Arduino IDE is similar. You can still not select more of the console than what is visible. They completely broke it with 2.0 and do not fix it. It reverts all unsaved changes when you hibernate or sleep, absolutely ridiculous.

I seem to recall some business where Arduino split in half, that Arduino.cc and arduino.com were different entities, there was a trademark dispute leading to the "Genuino" name being used in some locales, there were some similar yet incompatible boards made, then Adafruit announced they were partnered with Arduino and would be the manufacturer for Arduinos sold in the United States, which then apparently fell through pretty hard because Adafruit won't mention Arduino by name anymore. There was a brief stint working with Intel to make a couple x86 based boards, which went nowhere because Intel can't handle releasing documentation about their products, and then they sell to Qualcomm, and now we're mourning the loss.

[โ€“] vaionko@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 week ago

I'm not concernet about the hardware, but the software and the ecosystem. I wonder if we have another IDE that can compile Arduino code and access the library repo

[โ€“] lmuel@sopuli.xyz 68 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Qualcomm havenโ€™t exactly been known for their Linux friendliness on the Snapdragon X Elite chipsโ€ฆ I donโ€™t trust a word they say

[โ€“] B0rax@feddit.org 26 points 1 week ago

Exactlyโ€ฆ Qualcomm and open source are two things that I usually donโ€™t see in the same sentence

[โ€“] medem@lemmy.wtf 52 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm not entirely sure that we share the same definition of 'exciting'. Good.bye.

[โ€“] Croquette@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 week ago

It's exciting for the founders because they made a shit load of money

[โ€“] sudo_shinespark@lemmy.world 40 points 1 week ago (2 children)

truly exciting

ah, yes, Iโ€™m sure

[โ€“] brap@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

โ€œTrulyโ€ โ€œexcitingโ€

[โ€“] msage@programming.dev 6 points 1 week ago

For the investors, obviously.

[โ€“] DeadPixel@lemmy.zip 35 points 1 week ago

God damn it! ๐Ÿคฌ

[โ€“] tehn00bi@lemmy.world 34 points 1 week ago

Fuck. Are you kidding me.

[โ€“] Muffi@programming.dev 27 points 1 week ago

RIP Arduino, it was a joy while it lasted

It was a good run.

[โ€“] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 24 points 1 week ago

That's unfortunate. But at least the development ecosystem is open and mature. ATMega328 dev boards are good enough, I have a few official Unos from years back and many clones.

[โ€“] altphoto@lemmy.today 22 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Enshitification? Coming up in 5, 4, 3, 2,1..

[โ€“] Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

We are proud to bring you advancements benefiting your productivity and safety, such as:
- Surprise paywall!
- Planned obsolescence!
- Fully AI IDE!
- Each official controller requires cloud access to start!

[โ€“] 4k93n2@lemmy.zip 22 points 1 week ago

ArduiNo thanks

[โ€“] cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

damn they really have a weird definition of exciting news

[โ€“] derpgon@programming.dev 7 points 1 week ago

Exciting for them to cash out and bail. You wouldn't be?

[โ€“] st3ph3n@midwest.social 20 points 1 week ago
[โ€“] Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 1 week ago (3 children)

So what's the next alternative for Arduinos? ESP boards?

[โ€“] Jean_Mich_Much@jlai.lu 3 points 1 week ago

BeagleBone ?

[โ€“] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Just buy any old MCU!

[โ€“] Tja@programming.dev 2 points 1 week ago

I don't know if Chinese is that much better than American.... I had some success with olimex (Bulgarian) for microcontrollers and SBCs

[โ€“] SW42@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

Cool, wonโ€™t buy anymore - well, technically I got my company to buy genuine boards and modules from them. Not anymore.

[โ€“] sp3ctre@feddit.org 10 points 1 week ago

Ok, since I already own an arduino, no need to buy another one...