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Violations include digging without permits and dumping wastewater into storm drains.

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[–] markz@suppo.fi 120 points 1 week ago (6 children)

​​“Environmental regulations are, in my view, largely terrible,” he said at an event with the libertarian Cato Institute last year. “You have to get permission in advance, as opposed to, say, paying a penalty if you do something wrong, which I think would be much more effective.”

m8

[–] aarch0x40@lemmy.world 66 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

That's the Silicon Valley strategy. Break the law then pay off politicians so that whatever you've been doing becomes the new legal framework.

[–] TheAsianDonKnots@lemmy.zip 26 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It’s an OLD adage, “Easier to ask for forgiveness than permission” -Admiral Grace Hopper.

[–] aarch0x40@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

I know, I was paraphrasing 😜

[–] _stranger_@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

Bruh, that was invented long ago. See: The Rockefellers, Ma Bell, Philip Morris, etc.

It's just called "Fuck the Poor"

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

Break the law and pay less than it saved you IF you get caught and have to pay up.

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 26 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I guess he thinks he just said something clever there. What a stupid bitch. Nothing against female dogs per se.

BTW, reminds me of his AI factory, running on a battery of portable generators, polluting the environment for miles. Even by lax US law it's highly illegal. Yet he gets away with it once again. No, bitch really doesn't cut it.

[–] Stamau123@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago
  • 20 years later *

"The water in your doomsday bunker is infected with legionnaires disease after you dumped your runoff into the backyard"

"Alright, who do I pay?"

*Everyone dies *

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 week ago

Who would judge that your company did something wrong, and against what standards, in a system with no regulators or regulations?

[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If I was starting a new project with a possible environmental impact I'd absolutely want to have it cleared in advance rather than risk some huge fine randomly coming up at some point in the future.

[–] qarbone@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

That's because you're still poor enough to be acquainted with the idea of paying for things. When you're rich enough, you just acquire things with the assumption that someone who works for you will ~~do the nerdshit~~ fix the numbers so people won't bother you later by asking for more (or any) payment.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 6 points 1 week ago

The penalty would only be effective if it was like 50% of his net worth.

[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 55 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It was always bullshit. The vacuum tube train idea was shot down decades ago, but Musk recycled it for the new generation.

This is why they attack public education, to keep the masses ignorant to make them easier to manipulate and dupe out of their money. The smiling, charismatic idiots we allow into office are just as ignorant as the rest of us.

[–] _lilith@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago

Is it still better than high speed rail fuckwad? we could have had high speed rail all up and down the west coast by now but no some jerk off from the emerald mines had to fuck the ground in the desert

sorry OP I know you aren't xenon

[–] pruwybn@discuss.tchncs.de 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The Nevada Division of Environmental Protection could have fined the company more than $3 million under the 2022 agreement, which allowed for daily penalties to be assessed. But regulators knocked down the total penalty to $242,800. For example, the bulk of the total possible fine was linked to the alleged missed inspections, but the agency chose to levy just a $10,000 penalty for each of the company’s 11 permits.

“Given the extraordinary number of violations, NDEP has decided to exercise its discretion to reduce the penalty to two $5,000 violations per permit, which it believes offers a reasonable penalty that will still serve to deter future non-compliance conduct,” regulators wrote in the letter.

HE IS THE RICHEST PERSON IN THE WORLD. This is infuriating.

[–] jve@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Given the extraordinary number of violations, NDEP has decided to exercise its discretion

Oooh this ought to be good!

to reduce the penalty to two $5,000 violations per permit, which it believes offers a reasonable penalty that will still serve to deter future non-compliance conduct,” regulators wrote in the letter.

… wt actual f?

2022, Nevada had an increase in yacht ownerships, I'd say.

[–] ganoo_slash_linux@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I thought the vegas "loop" was a pathetic and useless project that transports basically no one at speeds of 15 mph, but thanks to this article I now know that it is also a scourge on the environment of planet earth due to the pollutants added during its construction! Which I suppose doesn't put it too far off most of the things in the las vegas strip. But it's seriously pathetic, they dig 1 tunnel from point A to point B and have a driver drive a tesla to transport people from A to B and B to A. The tunnel is only wide enough for traffic in one direction BTW so if people are waiting on either side, they have to wait for the 1 car to finish its trip.

[–] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

It’s the goddamn Fallout train in real life and they pretend it’s revolutionary transit.

[–] Zron@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I never understood how this stands up to fire codes.

What does happen when one of those teslas bursts into flames. I mean the people in the car are dead, we already know that, but what about everyone else? How do you get out?

[–] vala@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 week ago

Everyone dies

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

And what do they have to show for it? An oversized carnival ride that isn't even fun.

[–] Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 week ago

They should arrest the ceo

[–] mikenurre@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

I'm sure DOGE will come back and fire anyone at any agency trying to limit the Boring destruction.

[–] hOrni@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

And they will pay none of it. Obviously.

[–] fittedsyllabi@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

What does the government care? It wants to bring back coal.

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago
[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago

'samatter, Musk? Can't go for an even 1000?

[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Quietly hoping Trump ordered this, and someone's whispering to him to take all of Elon's money.