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[-] Duckef@lemmy.ml 67 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Imagine you've been stuck in the GDR and the first face you see is Nancy Regan

Edit: USSR to GDR

[-] yA3xAKQMbq@lemm.ee 23 points 1 year ago
[-] Diprount_Tomato@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

My bad, Soviet Colony of Germany

[-] Duckef@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

Thanks for the correction

[-] snooggums@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

I told you all the west was full of desiccated zombies!

[-] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

If it was good enough for Sinatra...

[-] Sharpiemarker@feddit.de 6 points 1 year ago

I'd rather not

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[-] Diprount_Tomato@lemmy.world 51 points 1 year ago

He's holding a hammer? Where is that commie hiding the sickle!

[-] Lauchs@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

I'm just asking questions!!!

[-] insomniac_lemon@kbin.social 37 points 1 year ago

US president kills wife with spike in tragic PR "accident".

"Well, the ol' depth perception ain't what it used to be." he said to reporters.

[-] theodewere@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago

"i've hit 'er with worse", he grinned

[-] SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

First he hit on her, then he hit her, and finally he hit her.

[-] samus12345@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago
[-] Lauchs@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago
[-] samus12345@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

It's from Family Guy and it turns out that's actually the wall of a McDonald's.

[-] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com 15 points 1 year ago

I really like the myth that Ronnie destroyed the Soviet Union, like Lech Wałęsa And the freaking Pope didn't exist.

[-] ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

I love that Republicans keep trying to get a statue of Reagan in Berlin but no one gives a shit about the “Mr. Gorbechov, Tear down this wall!” speech, which was in English and really aimed at U.S. viewers.

Germany always politely declined to put a statue up for some minor speech so Trump, in his tackiness, put a statue at the US Embassy. Angela Merkel responded by thanking George HW Bush for supporting reunification.

[-] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Yeltsin was the assassin that illegally dissolved the USSR though. What did the pope do to the USSR? Tell Gorbachev that god hates him?

[-] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com 13 points 1 year ago

John Paul II, the Polish Pope, visited Poland in 1979. It was the first papal visited in the Soviet Union and ended up igniting a workers revolution for independence which inturn broke up the Soviet block.

[-] Lauchs@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Oh heck, didn't know the papal visit helped spark that! Thanks!

[-] mayonaise_met@feddit.nl 4 points 1 year ago

I wish the Pope didn't exist

[-] Diprount_Tomato@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Edgelords gonna be edgy

[-] Jakylla@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago

Forgot this was FHP, I was about to distribute hate... OP, you're a master to make clickbait titles, I hate you with love

[-] Lauchs@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

That's the best kind of hate!

[-] dystop@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

damn pesky Americans!

[-] LEDZeppelin@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

What’s Nancy looking for?

[-] Lauchs@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

A husband who remembers her?

(Sorry)

[-] Pierre121000@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

There's so many arguments explaining why they were the one responsible for this wall

And everyone in 1989 talked about the lack of bananas in the eastern part without realising that the western sanctions were responsible for this absence. People aren't naturally ignorant
And they grew grew at the same rate rate despite socialism never working(, both sides were helped, but one of them was under sanctions and without any neocolonial help, a higher military burden, etc.)

Not forgetting that eastern germans(, who saw their shared properties stolen by western capitalists b.t.w.,) are still unapologetically voting left ever since

I've learned in highscool that Stalin was disfigured by some kind of disease but modified the photographs, that was a western lie still taught more than half a century after his death, i've also been taught that if someone stopped clapping first they were at a high risk of being deported, which was why rounds of applause could last a long time, i was naive enough not to have doubts. I didn't know that we were the most propagandised population in the world back then, something that most readers would disagree with(, if you cite north korea it'll even more point out (y)our ignorance&propagandization).

If you (dis)agree, then just ask yourself what's contained in the medias of our proclaimed enemies(, Venezuela, Bolivia, Nicaragua, Cuba, and any leftist south american, Zimbabwe, ~Burundi, ~'Central African Republic', ~Congo, ~Somalia, Sudan, and so many more african countries, Libya, Syria, Iraq, Iran, Palestine, and even Lebanon because of the Hezbollah, Afghanistan, Russia, China, North Korea, Belarus, Serbia, and too many others that i've ignored, if i'm taking the last 100 years then we've oppressed every single country at one point or another, including Ukraine when it elected pro-russian leaders. Read them and you'll understand that we're at the very least as propagandised as they are(, if not more, like i suppose, because they know our dominant point of view, cited in their articles, while we totally ignore theirs).

[-] Bigmouse@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

As a german: The tought of having to exclude Berlin from these statistics because it is such a trainwreck really butters my eggroll

[-] yA3xAKQMbq@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

That’s a study that is nearly ten years old, and is also severely misunderstood.

Firstly, yes, Berlin hasn’t got too much to add to Germany’s GDP, but that’s not really Berlin’s fault. In 2001 Berlin went broke because of the investment East-Berlin needed, but subsequently was denied help by the federal government. Yeah, no shit, if you don’t invest in your capital which has no industry to speak of, it’s not going to end well.

Second, this statistic showed that without Berlin, Germany would be 0.2% richer, while France would be 15% poorer without Paris. What does that mean? Simply that all the economic power is concentrated at one point in France. In Germany, the economic power is more evenly spread across the country. The largest state, NRW, has a GDP of 43k€/y per capita, which today is just barely more than Berlin with 42k€/y.

Berlin’s GDP is stronger than the other East German states, the bottom regions are MVP and SA, so the graph above would be better with Berlin included.

But yeah, Berlin is a trainwreck…

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[-] Diprount_Tomato@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

"Neo-colonial help" well, I guess you're right. The USSR just did good ol' blatant colonialism instead

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[-] Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 year ago

Uhm, have you checked the polls or results of what esstern germans actually vote for now? Hint: It is not Die Linke

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[-] Squids@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 year ago

...are you trying to say that the wall falling and the dissolution of the USSR was a bad thing because of a few economic boons (in a graph that is rather suspiciously missing Berlin)?

Well gee whiz lemme go tell that to my German friends who's parents lived under the constant threat of the Stasi I'm sure they'll be overjoyed to know that the regime that ruined their family's lives was great and should be brought back just because they did marginally less colonialism than the first world. Oh and maybe I should also tell this to the Syrian refugees I know that actually Soviet colonisation was good because hey, at least it ain't Britian because they're capitalist

Also I dunno, maybe that highly sensationalised image as Stalin came about because he was a dictator who oversaw a genocide and cut people out of history and had a vicious cult of personality around him?

[-] Pierre121000@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I included these graphs because people are saying that communism doesn't work, which is why we have to sanction them to death, for their own good(, and also because all of our enemies are dictators, what a coincidence, that's a manipulation easy to disprove, old allies are suddenly depicted as authoritarians as soon as they change allegiances, while true authoritarians aren't talked about, N.Chomsky and many others already proved this over and over).
Freedom has always been our sole argument, without which we have nothing left to defend our side. And it's not even a good one since poverty is slavery, "freely" working to fatten our annuitants lord capitalists. The entrepreneurial freedom isn't that bad though, we all have to learn from each other and i would prefer for all ideologies to cohabit together instead of only one of them imposing his unique view. Think it was Hegel who said that theses need antitheses in order to evolve into better syntheses.

I haven't lived under the Stasi's threat so for all i know i may be wrong and you may be right about the accusations of authoritarianism. It's easy to prove that their paranoia wasn't delusional though, they faced more powerful countries(, remember McCarthyism when the u.s.a. still thought that they were in a dangerous position, kinda isolated/outnumbered ? As stupid as it may seem, i quickly read the short comic "superman : red son", and was pleasantly surprised to see that the author depicted an authoritarian u.s.a. once it began to lose the cold war, with economic difficulties, state separatism, ..., that's an honest take which should probably be kept in mind when discussing the soviet's alleged authoritarianism, the only thing we remember about their society)
And our representatives were elected by a population who believed our propaganda when it celebrated the west achievements while omitting the soviets ones, when it vilified the soviet's actions and omitted our numerous misdeeds, ...
My point about authoritarianism is that it isn't inherent to communist ideals(, on the contrary, "democratic socialism in deeds and not in words" has a meaning), and since «whomever wants to drown his dog accuses him of rage», i'm almost certain that they were exagerated, Solzhenitsyn wasn't celebrated around the West for humanitarian reasons.
When you see how many impossible odds the u.s.s.r. had to face before the second world war you can understand their authoritarianism, understandable in war conditions, and the Moscow trials were during the Spanish civil war, Trostkyists were indeed traitors collaborating against communists, including in Asia, while the black book of communism with its 100M death claims has been abundantly debunked, gulags were a sad thing of course but opposing communism "because freedom" is idiotic, i'm sorry.

As for Syria, we both share an insignificant portion of the pain felt by the syrians, but i blame the west for opposing Bachar al-Assad(, elected by his population), while you blame him for not submitting. Fortunately Russia helped, we wouldn't consider V.Putin a dictator if he was aligned with our actions around the globe, i could give you as many surveys as you want proving that he didn't ever needed to cheat in the elections, contrary to our usual propaganda about our enemies, etc.

[-] gun@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

I was always told the Stalin quote: "one death is a tragedy, a million is a statistic"
Except there is no evidence he ever said this.
Nothing sours your opinion on an ideology like realizing its biggest proponents have been lying to you your whole life and they almost got away with it without you noticing.
Stalin did say this though: "I know that after my death a pile of rubbish will be heaped on my grave, but the wind of History will sooner or later sweep it away without mercy."

[-] Squids@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago

Except there is no evidence he ever said this.

Sure but like, the thing people attribute the quote to be about most certainly did fucking happen. After all, nothing quite sours your opinion on an ideology like mass genocide

[-] gun@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

There was never a genocide. That was also made up

[-] Squids@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago

... I'm sorry? The Purges were made up? The systemic starvation of Ukraine was made up? The mass deportations in a deliberate attempt to break up and assimilate various non-slavic groups and cultures was made up? There's so many things here that you're claiming are 'made up' that I think I'd hit the word limit listing them all.

Next you'll be telling me Troksy just accidentally fell on that icepick

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