342
submitted 11 months ago by HLMenckenFan@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world
top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[-] gregorum@lemm.ee 102 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

All of the companies that would instantly start losing a billion dollars per second would never allow this to happen. This isn’t some 3rd world country where Google and Apple and Facebook aren’t headquartered. The internet will always be happening here. They’re completely dependent on it and their customer’s constant access to it.

[-] massacre@lemmy.world 25 points 11 months ago

Our econnomy is heavily tied to the Internet at this point. Billions in commerce are conducted directly and many billions more in enabled ("what's the closest pizza place?"). Not to mention stock trading, banking, government services, healthcare, etc. You're very much on track here and I don't think it's hyperbole.

While it could technically happen that our government could legally shut down the internet, it wouldn't last long or it means we are under attack (perhaps internally) and need to control damage/messaging.

[-] gorkette@aussie.zone 8 points 11 months ago

How much of the infrastructure is government owned? Any if it? I do not think he could do this even if he ordered it.

load more comments (1 replies)
[-] Endorkend@kbin.social 10 points 11 months ago

Aren't all 3 of those actually headquartered in Ireland (for tax reasons)?

[-] gullible@kbin.social 89 points 11 months ago

I’m seeing a lot of Newsweek posted here and that is disheartening, to say the least. Newsweek is half a step from the dailymail’s level of bombastic misrepresentation. Continued use of Newsweek as a source is not ideal as a result.

[-] YoorWeb@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

I'm surprised how many users upvotes click bait headlines.

[-] GrammatonCleric@lemmy.world 43 points 11 months ago
[-] vexikron@lemmy.zip 8 points 11 months ago

Hands you a hollowed out hard copy of 1984 with a Sig 320 inside

We are going to need a lot more people trained in Gun Kata soon, Cleric.

But for now, its dangerous to go alone, take this!

[-] WraithGear@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

I don’t know where Equilibrium came from but i approve.

[-] vexikron@lemmy.zip 5 points 11 months ago

I was replying to a user named Grammaton Cleric.

load more comments (1 replies)
[-] negativenull@startrek.website 41 points 11 months ago
load more comments (1 replies)
[-] FireTower@lemmy.world 39 points 11 months ago

Miles Taylor, Trump's former chief of staff at the Department of Homeland Security, was asked on MSNBC about what potential damage the former president, who is the frontrunner in the GOP primaries, could do in government without breaking the law.

"The possibilities are almost limitless," Taylor said. "The biggest concerns for me are on the national security side. I think Americans still don't understand the full extent of the president's powers and things Donald Trump could do, bubble-wrapped in legalese, that would be damaging to the republic."

"He could invoke powers we've never heard a President of the United States invoke—potentially to shut down companies or turn off the internet or deploy the U.S. military on U.S. soil," he added. "We don't know because the things that are in there, the emergency powers of the president, aren't widely known to the American people.

[-] jdrch@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago

I doubt the president who lives on the internet & relies on it to connect with his superfans would disable it.

load more comments (1 replies)
[-] denshirenji@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

So no one said that he would or even may turn off the internet, but that he may use legalize and his emergency presidential powers, if elected, to do something crazy. The person talking about it was spitballing and included turning the internet off as a example of something crazy that he might do.

Edit: He indeed talked about geoblocking countries with groups like ISIS operating within them. At least that is what I assume he meant with his word salad. This is from post below mine. Still not turning off internet.

[-] kick_out_the_jams@kbin.social 16 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Oh Trump has blubbered about it enough that I would take it seriously.
It wouldn't be a legal mechanism if there was something stopping him from doing it.

(from the article)

"We're losing a lot of people because of the internet," Trump said. "We have to go see Bill Gates and a lot of different people that really understand what's happening. We have to talk to them about, maybe in certain areas, closing that Internet up in some way. Somebody will say, 'Oh freedom of speech, freedom of speech.' These are foolish people. We have a lot of foolish people."

"ISIS is recruiting through the Internet. ISIS is using the internet better than we are using the nternet and it was our idea," Trump said. "I want to get the brilliant people from Silicon Valley and other places and figure out a way that ISIS can't do what they're doing. I would certainly be open to closing areas where we are at war with somebody. I sure as hell don't want to let people that want to kill us and kill our nation use our Internet."

When challenged, he added: "I'm not talking about closing the internet. I'm talking about closing parts of the internet where ISIS is."

load more comments (1 replies)
[-] bedrooms@kbin.social 36 points 11 months ago

Quick, hide that internet button so that grandpa can't switch it off!

[-] MrShankles@reddthat.com 6 points 11 months ago

"Go ahead and pull the internet plug, gramps! I'll be pulling your plug soon enough anyways"

[-] noroute@lemmy.world 35 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

All i can say good luck. If you turn off the internet nothing will work and shit will hit the fan for the gov too fast.

[-] jeffw@lemmy.world 17 points 11 months ago

Well, he’d pretty much turn off the government if he turned off the internet anyway

[-] FaceDeer@kbin.social 13 points 11 months ago

You say that as if Republicans don't want exactly that.

[-] Deceptichum@kbin.social 6 points 11 months ago

No internet, no imaginary numbers go up.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

Republicans don't want government, but they do want their corporate masters to make money. Which whey won't do if there is no internet.

[-] FaceDeer@kbin.social 5 points 11 months ago

Are you suggesting that the Republicans might lack a sense of foresight and awareness of the consequences of their actions? Well I never.

[-] noroute@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I agree and this is exactly my point. It will be chaos worse than anything we ever seen. People just don’t realize how dependent everything is on internet now.

[-] MagicShel@programming.dev 7 points 11 months ago

Stores and banks aren't stocked or staffed for turning off e-commerce. Banks hate when customers walk in the door instead of doing everything online. And the stores woods have to find a drastically different equilibrium without internet advertising or orders. It would be absolute chaos.

[-] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)
[-] fsr1967@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago

He shuts down major backbones, effectively turning off the U.S. Internet. At the same time, he releases a story to the media and telcos about a major attack on the backbones - a virus, whatever. There's panic and chaos, as the country grinds to a halt.

He uses that to declare martial law.

After a sufficient time (a small number of days, or even hours), he turns the backbones back on, claiming experts have fixed the problem. Citing martial law, he puts restrictions in place on the U.S, Internet, as dictators do.

We now have severely limited access to real news and information, martial law, and a dictator in place. American Democracy is dead.

Vote Democrat. No matter how much you think they're the same, they aren't.

[-] AnneBonny@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 11 months ago

I think he is too much of a narcissist to do something that would reduce the amount of attention he could receive.

Also:

https://youtu.be/Vywf48Dhyns?si=4aSVPpOGSIIXhv2I

[-] Lemminary@lemmy.world 22 points 11 months ago

Will he personally pull the plug off the wall so that ISIS stops being a meanie?

[-] theodewere@kbin.social 20 points 11 months ago

he learned that idea when he visited his buddy Kim in North Korea

[-] Machinist3359@kbin.social 18 points 11 months ago

To be clear this is unlikely to be a long term nation wide internet blackout. Rather, e.g., turn off the Internet in a section of a city and send in troops to deal with a protest.

[-] butterflyattack@lemmy.world 31 points 11 months ago

Oh, that's okay then!

load more comments (1 replies)
[-] Coreidan@lemmy.world 17 points 11 months ago

My balls might turn off the internet

[-] Rooskie91@discuss.online 16 points 11 months ago

Lol every country on the brink that has tried this has incited their own revolution. When people loose their distraction machines they tend to aim anger in the right direction. I say turn it off.

load more comments (1 replies)
[-] liquidparasyte@pawb.social 15 points 11 months ago

Is this enough dictator behavior to call him an aspiring dictator for you yet?

[-] hansl@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago
load more comments (1 replies)
[-] skeezix@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

It’s dick tater

load more comments (1 replies)
[-] Mango@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago

ROFL!!

If anything would get people fired up for a coup, it's that.

load more comments (12 replies)
[-] Sabre363@sh.itjust.works 11 points 11 months ago

I'm pretty sure the only way to turn off the internet is remove humans from the ultimate equation. We have a stubborn little habit of maintaining the status quo or ignoring the rules, especially when porn and/or money is on the line.

[-] garretble@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago
[-] nutsack@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago

sounds like what he wants to do is block certain countries by ASN or something but doesn't know how to say it properly

load more comments (3 replies)
[-] someguy3@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago

He's going to call Bill Gates to do it.

[-] PrinceWith999Enemies@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

You kid but he literally names Bill Gates in the article.

load more comments (2 replies)
[-] evan@midwest.social 9 points 11 months ago

This is literally just “the president has a lot of emergency powers, these are some of them”

[-] vexikron@lemmy.zip 7 points 11 months ago

Finally.

Finally a candidate who bases policy around the objectively correct take away from Ready Player One, the most culturally significant sci fi statement on society of our generation.

(/s if that is somehow needed)

load more comments (1 replies)
[-] CompostMaterial@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

I see a lot of dismissal of this idea here. I think a lot of people think the statement means just arbitrarily turning it off. Maybe it does, he is an incompetent moron. However, if we look at real life historical precident on how countries have disabled internet access in their countries, it usually immediately precedes a coup. So I could see him (or another R in the near future) attempting such a strategy at the end of term in order to seize control and stay in power.

load more comments
view more: next ›
this post was submitted on 16 Dec 2023
342 points (84.9% liked)

News

23397 readers
3652 users here now

Welcome to the News community!

Rules:

1. Be civil


Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban. Do not respond to rule-breaking content; report it and move on.


2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.


Obvious right or left wing sources will be removed at the mods discretion. We have an actively updated blocklist, which you can see here: https://lemmy.world/post/2246130 if you feel like any website is missing, contact the mods. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted seperately but not to the post body.


3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.


Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.


4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source.


Posts which titles don’t match the source won’t be removed, but the autoMod will notify you, and if your title misrepresents the original article, the post will be deleted. If the site changed their headline, the bot might still contact you, just ignore it, we won’t delete your post.


5. Only recent news is allowed.


Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.


6. All posts must be news articles.


No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials or celebrity gossip is allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis.


7. No duplicate posts.


If a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.


8. Misinformation is prohibited.


Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.


9. No link shorteners.


The auto mod will contact you if a link shortener is detected, please delete your post if they are right.


10. Don't copy entire article in your post body


For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS