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Ukraine war: Kyiv forced to cut military operations as foreign aid dries up (www.bbc.com)

submitted 11 months ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/world@lemmy.world

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Ukraine has warned it is already being forced to downsize some military operations because of a drop-off in foreign aid.

Top general Oleksandr Tarnavskyi said troops faced ammunition shortages along the "entire front line", creating a "big problem" for Kyiv.

It comes as billions of dollars of US and EU aid have been held up amid political wrangles.

Ukraine said it hoped to boost its own ammunition industry with western help.

But it relies heavily on western supplies, particularly on deliveries of long-range missiles and air defence systems, to fight occupying Russian forces.

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[-] DarkGamer@kbin.social 198 points 11 months ago

Fucking Republicans.

[-] Kbobabob@lemmy.world 34 points 11 months ago

There's more than just the US that are able to help.

[-] Why9@lemmy.world 47 points 11 months ago

The US is the world's armoury. Sure, there are other nations that could help, but everyone knows it's the US that Kyiv is hoping for

[-] Kbobabob@lemmy.world 19 points 11 months ago

It's actually split almost 50/50 as far as money spent between the US and EU. But, yeah.. it is the US weapons they want.

[-] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 20 points 11 months ago

Right but people kinda expect the guy with the most stuff to do the most in a situation like this. Decades of US arming Europe and when it comes time to do something not much is happening. Sitting on the sidelines while a population is getting attacked with the means to stop it.

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[-] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 98 points 11 months ago

Fuck the republican traitor filth.

[-] njm1314@lemmy.world 80 points 11 months ago

You've got to give Putin this, he gets what he pays for.

[-] Dragon_Titan@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago

No surprise.

1st year of most wars RUS is in. They're crap in but afterwards they become a force to be reckoned with.

US-EU should have given UKR all the military equipment that UKR requested in the beginning instead of it being slowly given.

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[-] BombOmOm@lemmy.world 60 points 11 months ago

I just donated to United 24 again. If some governments are having internal issues, one can help Ukraine defend from Russian invaders directly.

[-] Krukenberg@feddit.ch 5 points 11 months ago

Thanks for the link!

[-] Neato@kbin.social 52 points 11 months ago

I'm surprised the military industrial complex isn't just loaning them the ordinance they were buying. Ukraine is slated to win easily if they can keep supplied. Most likely financial aid will resume from the US and EU. So those loans won't take long to pay off. And then the industry has another nation to buy their bombs.

[-] massive_bereavement@kbin.social 37 points 11 months ago

Me too. I never thought I would say this, but I'm surprised the Military Industrial Complex doesn't hold more pull with Reps.

[-] Travalanche@lemmy.world 27 points 11 months ago

Either Russia pays better or they're just holding out hope that being contrarian to Democrats, regardless of the issue, will win them another term.

[-] grabyourmotherskeys@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

R's are beholden to the dumbest, meanest people in the US. The MIC knows thus and knows they will get their money one way or another.

If Ukraine falls, Putin won't stop there, for example.

Getting their paid for politicians reelected is more important.

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[-] Sami_Uso@lemmy.world 22 points 11 months ago

"slated to win easily"

Almost sounds like a sports cliche. Easy to talk about war like that when you have little to no stake in the game and can think of both sides as good guys and bad guys.

[-] popcap200@lemmy.ml 16 points 11 months ago

I agree with most of your points. Fortunately unlike most wars, this one does actually have a clear good and bad guy.

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[-] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago

can think of both sides as good guys and bad guys.

One country invaded another country without (real) cause. That seems pretty clear-cut.

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[-] Beetschnapps@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago

It’s almost like it’s not that ridiculously simplistic.

[-] Neato@kbin.social 5 points 11 months ago

Do you like, have any information that would show why this isn't happening due to more complicated details? Or did you just post in order to talk down to someone without making any salient points whatsoever?

[-] nxdefiant@startrek.website 8 points 11 months ago

basically, the government has to approve sales.

https://www.state.gov/u-s-arms-sales-and-defense-trade/

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[-] Wrench@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

I would think much of their supply chain involves the use of US military logistics infrastructure. If the US military is prevented from funding these pipelines, they may find it cost prohibitive to even get the supplies there.

[-] Faresh@lemmy.ml 8 points 11 months ago

Maybe because Ukraine isn't going to "win" any time soon or easily as you believe?

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[-] Dragon_Titan@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

At best UKR will be able to maintain a stalemate with RUS.

RUS is tapping into alternatives to get what they need and want. Which for the most part is currently working out.

UKR relies heavily on the US-EU for funding and support. That support is inconsistent and will fluctuate but will mostly remain relatively standard or low unless something media worthy happens.

When and how much they're are funded depends on public opinion and the media, whose interest changes.

eg. Afghanistan with the Afghan women and girls, and how support is significantly being redirected to Israel-Palestine conflict.

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[-] Jaysyn@kbin.social 21 points 11 months ago

Yeah, but the GOP will be getting a lot of money from Russian cutouts for this betrayal of freedom & democracy.

[-] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

Winter came. Maneuvering is very hard.

[-] autotldr 5 points 11 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:

Top general Oleksandr Tarnavskyi said troops faced ammunition shortages along the "entire front line", creating a "big problem" for Kyiv.

But it relies heavily on western supplies, particularly on deliveries of long-range missiles and air defence systems, to fight occupying Russian forces.

A report by the Estonian defence ministry said Kyiv needed a minimum of 200,000 artillery shells a month to retain an edge against Russia.

Speaking to the BBC, Ukraine's Deputy Defence Minister Ivan Havryliuk said the country was ramping up production of kamikaze drones "to compensate [for] the lack of artillery shells".

However, the situation has signalled to Russia that international support for Ukraine is weakening - and there are concerns that by switching its economy onto a war footing, Moscow can outlast the West in this battle of attrition.

Kalle Kirss, Estonia's defence adviser to Nato, told the BBC that Europe needed to commit funding to support Ukraine.

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[-] Gigan@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

Oof, that's sad to hear.

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