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submitted 10 months ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/politics@lemmy.world

Former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani on Sunday offered a justification after he was found liable for defaming two former Georgia election workers, Shaye Moss and Ruby Freeman.

On his Sunday WABC radio program, Giuliani congratulated himself for a "brilliant legal move" because he recommended that then-President Donald Trump take his rigged election claims to state legislatures instead of the courts after the 2020 presidential vote.

"I went to Georgia, indicted, I went to Michigan, I went to Pennsylvania, I went to Arizona, and I went there, and I testified, and I brought my witnesses, and I said, among other things, if we lose, we'll have a historical record, yet we're going to prove this one day, Mr. President," he recalled telling Trump. "I don't even realize they're going to try to put us in prison, arrest us, raid our apartments."

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[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 59 points 10 months ago

Admitting you committed a crime is not going to work out for you at trial...

"So when you said you 'did it for your country', isn't that an admission?"

". . ."

[-] coffeebiscuit@lemmy.world 30 points 10 months ago

Next question would be: “Which country?”

[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago

Logically that would be Mother Russia, since no other country has benefited as much.

[-] SkippingRelax@lemmy.world 18 points 10 months ago

Oh shit wrong Georgia!

[-] macrocephalic@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

It's already been to trial and he was found guilty of defaming the two election workers (he didn't even put in a valid defence).

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

That wasn't the CRIMINAL trial though, that is still coming.

You don't want to be admitting crimes ahead of potential jail time, especially when the bar raises from "preponderance of evidence" (civil trial) to "beyond reasonable doubt" (criminal trial).

[-] SayJess@lemmy.blahaj.zone 51 points 10 months ago

From the article:

"I did it all for my country because I knew something my fellow countrymen didn't know, and that is that we were on the verge of electing a 30-year career criminal as the President of the United States, and if you do that, you're going to rot from the head down."

What a fucking idiot.

[-] Everythingispenguins@lemmy.world 34 points 10 months ago

Trump has been a criminal for much longer than that

[-] SayJess@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 10 months ago

Absolutely!

[-] Bleach7297@lemmy.ca 10 points 10 months ago

Does the Trump country club know any other rhetorical tricks? Or just projection?

[-] SayJess@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Fake News. I’ve gotta admit, Fake News was brilliant strategy, if sowing seeds of doubt into the election process was the goal.

That is all they need. There could be multi-angle cameras that record their hate speech, and all they have to do to answer to it is say Fake News.

Fake News! I never said that they should “fire up the ovens”. And if I did, it was not referring to any one specific group of people. And if I actually was referring to specific groups of people, I was just saying what you all think. And if you don’t think that, then you are probably an agent of either the FBI or IRS/ANTIFA.

Edit to fix punctuation.

[-] Bleach7297@lemmy.ca 4 points 10 months ago

Ah yes. How could I forget? Perhaps with a significant head injury. 🥸

[-] spider@lemmy.nz 42 points 10 months ago

People like Giuliani, Trump, Netanyahu, etc. habitually conflate their own self-interest with the interest of their country.

[-] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 24 points 10 months ago

Though it’s written “conflate”, it’s actually pronounced “willfully misrepresent”

[-] hydrospanner@lemmy.world 18 points 10 months ago

And sometimes it's spelled "covfefe".

[-] MagicShel@programming.dev 5 points 10 months ago

It's a tricky pronunciation because that 'c' is silent.

[-] Balthazar@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

L'État, c'est moi.

[-] rayyy@lemmy.world 38 points 10 months ago

"Did it for my country" - translation: "Did it for myself"

[-] JoMomma@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

His country is not the US

[-] ook_the_librarian@lemmy.world 32 points 10 months ago

So that's cool and all (well not really), but the time to raise a defense is at court. Of course, they don't simply let you say things, you have to produce the discovery materials.

What's that? That would be incredibly damning? So just take the verdict and whine? Sounds about right.

[-] theodewere@kbin.social 29 points 10 months ago

that country would be Russia, and they are grateful Rudy

[-] Skanky@lemmy.world 25 points 10 months ago

Lol. Welcome to the "find out" part of the story Rudy.

Get fucked

[-] BoastfulDaedra@lemmynsfw.com 24 points 10 months ago

To your country, Rudy. You did it to your country.

[-] ElBarto@sh.itjust.works 24 points 10 months ago

Just because you say you did it for your country, doesn't make it good.

Like the shit I took this morning, I did that for my country.

[-] Pratai@lemmy.ca 20 points 10 months ago

“I am a proven traitor to America and attempted to oppress the will of its people because I am an American patriot and I love my country!”

This is the type of dumbassery that all the backwoods Cletus’es eat up. Guaranteed to earn his master a few extra votes.

[-] bitwaba@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

“I am a proven traitor to America and attempted to oppress the will of its people because I am an American patriot and I love my country!”

Secedes from Union

[-] Akasazh@feddit.nl 20 points 10 months ago

Ok so now pay up

[-] charonn0@startrek.website 19 points 10 months ago

Not even his supporters are going to remember him as anything but a penis butler for Trump.

[-] kaibae@lemmy.world 18 points 10 months ago

To MAGA their country, their America, is only for wealthy, white, male landowners. Nobody else matters in their view. Read any statement from tr*mp and team with this in mind and you'll understand their context. These people believe that the white man was God's gift to the New World, they are owed this and how dare we disagree!

[-] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago

Tbf, it's the same for the preamble.

[-] DarkGamer@kbin.social 11 points 10 months ago

That poor poor victim, you see he had to overthrow democracy and frame innocent people because he didn't like the next president.

[-] Nougat@kbin.social 11 points 10 months ago

On his Sunday WABC radio program, Giuliani congratulated himself for a “brilliant legal move” because he recommended that then-President Donald Trump take his rigged election claims to state legislatures instead of the courts after the 2020 presidential vote.

Incriminating yourself on your own radio show is more brilliant still.

[-] Lophostemon@aussie.zone 4 points 10 months ago

I’d love to hear Rudy taken apart by Al Franken.

[-] nutsack@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago

nothing is better for america than undermining democratic processing

[-] pottedmeat7910@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago

Well, good for him for finally finding that hill to die on.

So, you know, you can die now.

[-] badbytes@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

Giuliani congratulated himself for a "brilliant legal move".

Ok buddy.

[-] badbytes@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

Is Rudy a Russian citizen?

[-] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 0 points 10 months ago

Rossini's is gross and you should feel bad

[-] athos77@kbin.social 6 points 10 months ago
[-] Coreidan@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

Wear a condom first

[-] ares35@kbin.social 4 points 10 months ago

can we let a future cell mate have a crack at it first?

[-] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 3 points 10 months ago

How many pounds of flesh we taking from him?

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

296.... his flesh isn't worth that much.

[-] 5in1k@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

What country is that? Russia?

[-] treefrog@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

Exactly. The game plan was always to sell us out to Russia.

Didn't Trump suggest hanging people like this?

[-] sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz 1 points 10 months ago

He did it all for the nookie.

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