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Former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani on Sunday offered a justification after he was found liable for defaming two former Georgia election workers, Shaye Moss and Ruby Freeman.

On his Sunday WABC radio program, Giuliani congratulated himself for a "brilliant legal move" because he recommended that then-President Donald Trump take his rigged election claims to state legislatures instead of the courts after the 2020 presidential vote.

"I went to Georgia, indicted, I went to Michigan, I went to Pennsylvania, I went to Arizona, and I went there, and I testified, and I brought my witnesses, and I said, among other things, if we lose, we'll have a historical record, yet we're going to prove this one day, Mr. President," he recalled telling Trump. "I don't even realize they're going to try to put us in prison, arrest us, raid our apartments."

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[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 59 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Admitting you committed a crime is not going to work out for you at trial...

"So when you said you 'did it for your country', isn't that an admission?"

". . ."

[–] coffeebiscuit@lemmy.world 30 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Next question would be: “Which country?”

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Logically that would be Mother Russia, since no other country has benefited as much.

[–] SkippingRelax@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago

Oh shit wrong Georgia!

[–] macrocephalic@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's already been to trial and he was found guilty of defaming the two election workers (he didn't even put in a valid defence).

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

That wasn't the CRIMINAL trial though, that is still coming.

You don't want to be admitting crimes ahead of potential jail time, especially when the bar raises from "preponderance of evidence" (civil trial) to "beyond reasonable doubt" (criminal trial).

[–] SayJess@lemmy.blahaj.zone 51 points 2 years ago (2 children)

From the article:

"I did it all for my country because I knew something my fellow countrymen didn't know, and that is that we were on the verge of electing a 30-year career criminal as the President of the United States, and if you do that, you're going to rot from the head down."

What a fucking idiot.

[–] Everythingispenguins@lemmy.world 34 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Trump has been a criminal for much longer than that

[–] SayJess@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 years ago

Absolutely!

[–] Bleach7297@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Does the Trump country club know any other rhetorical tricks? Or just projection?

[–] SayJess@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Fake News. I’ve gotta admit, Fake News was brilliant strategy, if sowing seeds of doubt into the election process was the goal.

That is all they need. There could be multi-angle cameras that record their hate speech, and all they have to do to answer to it is say Fake News.

Fake News! I never said that they should “fire up the ovens”. And if I did, it was not referring to any one specific group of people. And if I actually was referring to specific groups of people, I was just saying what you all think. And if you don’t think that, then you are probably an agent of either the FBI or IRS/ANTIFA.

Edit to fix punctuation.

[–] Bleach7297@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 years ago

Ah yes. How could I forget? Perhaps with a significant head injury. 🥸

[–] spider@lemmy.nz 42 points 2 years ago (2 children)

People like Giuliani, Trump, Netanyahu, etc. habitually conflate their own self-interest with the interest of their country.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 24 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Though it’s written “conflate”, it’s actually pronounced “willfully misrepresent”

[–] hydrospanner@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago

And sometimes it's spelled "covfefe".

[–] MagicShel@programming.dev 5 points 2 years ago

It's a tricky pronunciation because that 'c' is silent.

[–] Balthazar@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

L'État, c'est moi.

[–] rayyy@lemmy.world 38 points 2 years ago (1 children)

"Did it for my country" - translation: "Did it for myself"

[–] JoMomma@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

His country is not the US

[–] ook_the_librarian@lemmy.world 32 points 2 years ago

So that's cool and all (well not really), but the time to raise a defense is at court. Of course, they don't simply let you say things, you have to produce the discovery materials.

What's that? That would be incredibly damning? So just take the verdict and whine? Sounds about right.

[–] theodewere@kbin.social 29 points 2 years ago

that country would be Russia, and they are grateful Rudy

[–] Skanky@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago

Lol. Welcome to the "find out" part of the story Rudy.

Get fucked

[–] ElBarto@sh.itjust.works 24 points 2 years ago

Just because you say you did it for your country, doesn't make it good.

Like the shit I took this morning, I did that for my country.

[–] BoastfulDaedra@lemmynsfw.com 24 points 2 years ago

To your country, Rudy. You did it to your country.

[–] Pratai@lemmy.ca 20 points 2 years ago (1 children)

“I am a proven traitor to America and attempted to oppress the will of its people because I am an American patriot and I love my country!”

This is the type of dumbassery that all the backwoods Cletus’es eat up. Guaranteed to earn his master a few extra votes.

[–] bitwaba@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

“I am a proven traitor to America and attempted to oppress the will of its people because I am an American patriot and I love my country!”

Secedes from Union

[–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 20 points 2 years ago

Ok so now pay up

[–] charonn0@startrek.website 19 points 2 years ago

Not even his supporters are going to remember him as anything but a penis butler for Trump.

[–] kaibae@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago (1 children)

To MAGA their country, their America, is only for wealthy, white, male landowners. Nobody else matters in their view. Read any statement from tr*mp and team with this in mind and you'll understand their context. These people believe that the white man was God's gift to the New World, they are owed this and how dare we disagree!

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

Tbf, it's the same for the preamble.

[–] Nougat@kbin.social 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

On his Sunday WABC radio program, Giuliani congratulated himself for a “brilliant legal move” because he recommended that then-President Donald Trump take his rigged election claims to state legislatures instead of the courts after the 2020 presidential vote.

Incriminating yourself on your own radio show is more brilliant still.

[–] Lophostemon@aussie.zone 4 points 2 years ago

I’d love to hear Rudy taken apart by Al Franken.

[–] DarkGamer@kbin.social 11 points 2 years ago

That poor poor victim, you see he had to overthrow democracy and frame innocent people because he didn't like the next president.

[–] nutsack@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

nothing is better for america than undermining democratic processing

[–] pottedmeat7910@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

Well, good for him for finally finding that hill to die on.

So, you know, you can die now.

[–] badbytes@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

Giuliani congratulated himself for a "brilliant legal move".

Ok buddy.

[–] badbytes@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Is Rudy a Russian citizen?

[–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 0 points 2 years ago

Rossini's is gross and you should feel bad

[–] athos77@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)
[–] Coreidan@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

Wear a condom first

[–] ares35@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago

can we let a future cell mate have a crack at it first?

[–] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

How many pounds of flesh we taking from him?

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

296.... his flesh isn't worth that much.

[–] 5in1k@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What country is that? Russia?

[–] sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 years ago

He did it all for the nookie.