It may be hard to believe for everyone here, since we made the jump. Most people just want to be where everyone else is. They get the most interaction there, from their point of view, so thats where they stay.

Also, we may be biased toward tech here. The average person probably loathes setting up new accounts and figuring out new websites.

antiwork on Reddit is a joke at this point. Honestly (and I say this as a pretty staunch leftist), fox news is right about something with AntiWork, that it is for the most part a bunch of lazy people who don't want to work.

Now that being said, before you downvote me to hell, I strongly do believe in workreform, and the new workreform communities here (and I assume on Reddit but I'm not there anymore) are much better at having a clear message of not being abused and workers rights. Antiwork may have once had that message, but now it's drowned in "I don't want to work at all I should be able to have everything I want for free" garbage, and it makes the entire movement look bad.

"Antiwork" does not leave because that would mean additional work. It is right in the title!

antiwork is filled with people who love to bitch but hate doing anything about it. Staying on reddit because of inertia is exactly the kind of thing that represents them.

Anti-work can stay on Reddit. I'm sick of their bitching.

Do you really find it that baffling that people are choosing to provide help and advice in a setting that has millions of active users rather than a setting that has some thousands?

Lemmy is still small and it doesn't have the crowd sourced discussion or reach that Reddit does.

Sure some people might be after the karma or attention, but it's bad to just lump everyone together with that assumption. People have different reasons for continuing to use other platforms, and it's not productive to throw around insults. I assume lots of Reddit users are aware of the issues, but continue to use it for other reasons. Some people may be using Lemmy / fediverse on top of Reddit.

• People may read content relevant to them to get discussion that doesn't exist on Lemmy yet. That might include social causes, career pages, hobbies, etc.

• People might post on Reddit to reach more people. When it comes to social causes / movements, reaching people is important wherever those people might be. I extend this to other platforms too. As annoying as it might feel, a lot of regular users are primarily on Instagram, TikTok, etc. and it's worth the effort to get the message to those people. Lots of people learn about social causes that way

For what it's worth, you can't get people to move to the Fediverse if they don't learn about it

Because some people don’t infuse their political identity into everything they do

I'm both here and there. Both have strengths and weaknesses. Reddit, I find, is better for getting more inputs. This place lacks that (hence this question is as askable as it is) but is good for getting more engagement for one's worth. Money isn't everything.

If I had to guess it would be the amount of engagement. I love Lemmy but I still use reddit for some communities that just aren't popular here.

Anyone with half a brain switched from antiwork to workreform after the moderation drama a couple of years ago. Doesn't surprise me that the remaining members are hard to displace

Asking this is like asking people that don’t like increasing food prices, why do they still go to the grocery store. I think they’re using Reddit because they want to. And if they want to, let them.

And to some, yes- the fediverse is that bad. The far-left socialist leaning communities that block/ban everyone with a reasonable argument against their core belief is an absolute deterrent to lemmy, flies in the face of what Lemmy is all about, and are a BIG reason a lot of people, including myself have chosen to return to Reddit.

Now, you could say that Reddit is just as bad, and you’d be right, but if it’s just as bad but with FAR more content and interaction….

It’s a no brainer.

Also:

Antiwork is a cringe sub full of people that share fake memes and whine about a lot of things while doing nothing about it. It’s a wind-tunnel. Nothing more. You don’t want that shit here.

Sometimes you just have to work within the system that exists and promote change from within.

Specifically for antiwork:

Because they are either generally not very well informed or politically well versed and just know that work sucks,

Or they do not have very much free time to follow meta news about reddit and are unaware of what is going on,

Or they just have not heard of lemmy yet,

Or they have had some kind of technical trouble trying to sign up for or use lemmy in the way they would want to,

Or they are not very not very tech savvy and do not understand the FOSS benefits to a discussion board or why or how thats relevant to capitalism,

Or they are basically hypocrites who prefer an echo chamber that is comfortable to a somewhat less echo chambery option and are really just into the whole scene superficially and do not really actually care for having non contradictory and inconsistent views + personal actions/behaviors.

Lots of them probably fall into different categories and many probably fall into more than one.

it could be from lemmy having a much larger circlejerk problem than reddit, likely due to the lower population, and/or less diverse population (in some cases enforced, lemmy.ml being the biggest case of this)

Some people drop-out whilst others infiltrate and take over…

No, people just don’t like change. All those fake internet points are hard to let go.

They prefer a more polished UI? I know there are several mobile apps that improve on the default browser experience of visiting https://lemmy.world/, but you have to admit that the initial UX of Lemmy leaves room for improvement. This is the same reason many open-source projects gave up on IRC. The die-hard FOSS advocates raised the "but Slack isn't an open standard" argument only to be shouted down by a larger part of the community with "IRC's UX sucks and is a barrier to new contributors".

https://kbin.social/ has a lot of issues (like calling communities magazines and general performance/stability), but the UI/UX is so much better than Lemmy.

1. Inertia

People don't leave until they have a compelling reason to leave. They will stay put until something pushes them to move. Bad corporate practices are not that strong an effect—boycotting every bad company in 2024 is not a thing people are trying to do, the world doesn't work like that.

1. Positive Network Effects

The size and value of Reddit's network still dwarves the fediverse, and that's the primary value of any social network—the people you can interact with.