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Nikki Haley PAC Out Raises Donald Trump by Millions: Report (themessenger.com)

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Stand for America Fund Inc, a super PAC that supports Nikki Haley, reported on Thursday that it has raised $50.1 million in the second half of 2023 — millions more than Trump-aligned super PAC MAGA Inc., which reported over $46 million.

There are no details from these numbers yet, which were reported by the New York Times, as the Federal Election Commission filing deadline is only Jan. 31.

When it comes to MAGA Inc.'s funds, the super PAC ended the year with over $23 million in cash on hand, according to reports — and counted with over a dozen donors who contributed with $1 million or more.

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[-] Chainweasel@lemmy.world 119 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Best case scenario is she wins the nomination.
Everyone keeps saying that "Biden's best chance is against Trump".
And while that may be technically true, something people fail to take into account is that under absolutely no circumstances is Trump going quietly.
There's a 0% chance he doesn't run as an independent or write in candidate and split the Republican vote. It's just not going to happen.
And yes, the Republican party could just hand him the nomination and put him up if Nikki wins legitimately, but then they've just disenfranchised everyone that voted for her, everyone that wanted to vote Republican but didn't want to vote for Trump.
And some of those people will vote for Biden, and some may not vote at all.
But as much of a piece of shit as she is, the mess she's making in the Republican party is doing us all a huge favor.

[-] gibmiser@lemmy.world 73 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Trump could die tomorrow and he would still get a non-trivial number of votes. Diehard MAGA would be talking about how he's not really dead, that he never stopped being president, and that Trump's hair looks amazing.

[-] 7u5k3n@lemmy.world 27 points 9 months ago

I'll be willing to bet actual Dollarbucks that he gets write in votes ~10 years or 3 elections after he dies.

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[-] designatedhacker@lemm.ee 21 points 9 months ago

What are they gonna do, believe "Big Coroner." The same folks that lied to us about COVID deaths! /S if that wasn't obvious.

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[-] Pohl@lemmy.world 44 points 9 months ago

I agree.

Even barring 3rd party shenanigans leaving dems in control of the WH. Haley will leave when her term is done, trump will not. I’d much rather take my chances on a less than favorable Haley-Biden matchup than make a wild, all-in bet for the future of the republic.

There is nothing about Haley that appeals to me but I hope she manages to pull this off somehow. I will sleep better, that’s for damn sure.

[-] Chainweasel@lemmy.world 18 points 9 months ago

There is nothing about Haley that appeals to me but I hope she manages to pull this off somehow. I will sleep better, that’s for damn sure.

Agreed. I even thought about requesting a Republican ballot this year for the Ohio primary and voting for her.
I'm voting for Biden in the general either way, but I'd still rather have him up against her.

[-] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I'm sorry, but I think this whole thread is crazy, Haley could absolutely beat Biden if she somehow managed to get the Republican nomination. Independents will vote against Trump in November because his handling of COVID and January 6 freaked them out, but they don't like Biden at all either and would love to have someone else to vote for. Plus, Haley being a woman will probably go a long ways towards disarming the abortion issue for people who only think about politics for five minutes a year.

[-] dragonflyteaparty@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago

I agree with you. Hayley worries me more and I think any Republican candidate will put project 2025 into action. I think Hayley will disarm a lot of worries specifically because she's not Trump, female, and people will vote for her partly to have the first female president. If she ends up being the nominee, the new nonsense against Biden will be about him being sexist which at least some people will fall for.

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[-] something_random_tho@lemmy.world 44 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Even though I disagree with Haley’s platform, I believe she’d leave office at the end of her term. I believe she’d accept the result of an election she’s lost. I believe that she’d behave with a level of decorum appropriate for the office.

So she’s immediately better than Trump simply by not being a fascist monster. Even if the dems lost to her, I wouldn’t have to worry about democracy suddenly ending or concentration camps for immigrants or nuking random countries and leaving NATO or her encouraging everyone to inject bleach and take horse de-worming pills, at least for 4 years.

[-] Telorand@reddthat.com 21 points 9 months ago

It's sad that "will behave with decorum and tact" is the bar Republicans continue to struggle to clear.

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[-] ninjan@lemmy.mildgrim.com 59 points 9 months ago

Well Trump has been skinning his base (voters) for money for close to a decade now without really giving them anymore in the wallet while president.

[-] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 19 points 9 months ago

If they haven't figured by now that they're being scammed, they never will. The cult leader can do no wrong.

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[-] frunch@lemmy.world 50 points 9 months ago

Omg imagine if she ends up being the first female president?!? This is just silly, but i do love watching conservative infighting 🍿🥂

[-] CosmicTurtle@lemmy.world 101 points 9 months ago

It reminds me of the interview that Jordon Klepper did with MAGA voters in 2016.

MAGA woman: A woman can't be president! If she has a hot flash or gets emotional, she could start a war!

Jordon: Haven't all wars been started by men?

MAGA woman: pause

[-] kescusay@lemmy.world 36 points 9 months ago

That pause was loooong and incredibly awkward. You could practically hear the gears grinding in her head as she tried to reconcile the cognitive dissonance.

[-] hydrospanner@lemmy.world 34 points 9 months ago

I cannot wrap my brain around the mental path that leads any woman to support Donald Trump.

Like...why? What on earth does this candidate offer you?

[-] GoofSchmoofer@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I know a woman that is a trump supporter. She is also a christian evangelical and has been most of her life.

I think the reason she is a trump supporter is that her christian education has taught her that there is a hierarchy to reality.

That men are the protectors - God (a man in her world view) is the head of that

Women are the providers and submissive to men.

I think the bravado of trump appeals to her sense of reality, A strong "protector" man in charge. All of his limitations are not for her to question because she is the provider not the questioner.

[-] rigamarole@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago

I asked my mother, so I can answer. She said if he is the Republican nominee, she will vote for him. Extended reasoning is "not a Democrat".

[-] SimplyTadpole@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 9 months ago

Trust me, there is a seriously disturbing amount of genuinely misogynistic women out there. I've had the misfortune of dealing with them many times...

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[-] lagomorphlecture@lemm.ee 10 points 9 months ago

As a woman in my 40s I can't even tell you the number of wars I've started during a hot flash and I'm not even the commander in chief of the largest military in the world. If I were though I would have definitely launched nukes on at least 5 occasions just because I was hot for a few minutes.

/s because jfc

[-] Oderus@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago

Imma need a link

[-] wren@sopuli.xyz 9 points 9 months ago

https://youtu.be/Y4Zdx97A63s?si=PRKhYr21FxaqcQst 1:40 in

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[-] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 9 months ago

she'd quite frankly be worse than trump. nevermind the fact that she wants a national abortion ban and a national trans care ban

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[-] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 39 points 9 months ago

There's no way Trump isn't going to run in November. If he get's frozen out by the GOP he'll declare himself a write in candidate, and if he's barred by SCOTUS he'll run Ivanka.

[-] dhork@lemmy.world 19 points 9 months ago

He might be dumb enough to think the GOP can run Donald Trump Jr. In his place and not have to change the ballots.

[-] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 11 points 9 months ago

Even Eric knows that Ivanka is the smart one.

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[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 12 points 9 months ago

So you're saying Biden in a landslide?

[-] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 14 points 9 months ago

Don't jinx us.

[-] nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca 11 points 9 months ago

Has Ivanka even been seen with him since she and Jared walked away with their $2B Saudi deal?

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[-] rayyy@lemmy.world 29 points 9 months ago

The Republican party is desperately trying to stay alive by moving away from the crazy but it is still too strong.
Can't win a primary without him, can't win a general with him.

[-] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 20 points 9 months ago

He wins the primary and has a stroke before the general. Everyone gets what they want.

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[-] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 27 points 9 months ago

I think there are a great many Republicans who won't vote for a woman for president. Haley would be great for Dems, IMO.

[-] FenrirIII@lemmy.world 18 points 9 months ago

She's worse than Hillary.

[-] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 23 points 9 months ago

She's GOP so that's a given. If she becomes the R presidential candidate they just gave the race to Biden though, IMO.

[-] dhork@lemmy.world 14 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

No, I don't think so. She's a good debater, there's a reason why Trump was afraid to go on a debate stage with her. She would emasculate him on the debate stage.

And I have a generally high opinion on Biden, but he has visibly aged since the last election in 2020. I'm confident he could put forward his views well in a hypothetical debate with Haley, but his age would be out on full display, much more so than if he were debating someone his age. The story from those debates wouldn't be about what they said, but about the age difference.

I also think Biden only cares about beating Trump. If we find out that Haley is getting the nomination, then Biden will conveniently find out about some health issue that makes him unable to go on, and Harris would take over the ticket. (Too late to have a primary cycle, oh darn!) A Harris/Whitmer ticket stands a much better chance of beating Haley than Biden/Harris.

[-] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 12 points 9 months ago

I admit you might have a point there. That's a good rebuttal to my thinking.

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[-] gibmiser@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago

I think you underestimate the "team" aspect. I think even the folks who hate women hate losing more.

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[-] neptune@dmv.social 9 points 9 months ago

Many many Republicans will not vote for anyone but Trump. Look at Mitt Romney. He didn't excite the crazies.

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[-] paddirn@lemmy.world 24 points 9 months ago

I'm sure that burns him more than anything. She's got a bigger wad than he does.

[-] Algaroth@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago

And bigger hands.

[-] TheDannysaur@lemmy.world 19 points 9 months ago

From everything I've seen, this race is over. New Hampshire was one of the highest populations of Haleys base and she still lost by 10 points.

She would need a very seismic shift in the race to have any prayer of a chance.

And just to be clear, I'm quite liberal. But whenever I write these comments people think I'm for Trump. I just look at the data.

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[-] OhStopYellingAtMe@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago

Split the party.

[-] reddthat_209@reddthat.com 9 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Wasn't planning to donate but did after Trumps threats to ban from Maga for those that did so ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ

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