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[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 133 points 7 months ago

Yeah, because it couldn't possibly be that Americans are opposed to genocide.

For fuck's sake, Pelosi. Witch hunts are supposed to be a Republican thing.

[-] Baines@lemmy.world 37 points 7 months ago

wouldn’t be the first time Russia has done something like this, that said, how about we stop supporting genocide and it won’t matter

[-] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago

Wouldn't be the first time democrats have done this, either.

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[-] Candelestine@lemmy.world 18 points 7 months ago

While it's all certainly Americans, and we don't like genocides, she is correct in assuming that Putin wants Trump to win, and this would be an effective way to further that goal.

Don't forget Putin was KGB.

I imagine it's more through social media manipulation and misinformation than FSB funding, I suppose I could be wrong. By way of example, though, how many times have you heard that white phosphorous is banned, even though that's not exactly true?

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[-] ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world 124 points 7 months ago

Imagine how out-of-touch you have to be to represent San Francisco and not realize sincere antiwar protesters exist.

[-] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 35 points 7 months ago

Here is my completely nonpartisan hot take. We should pass a constitutional amendment that ties the maximum age to hold public office (including judges) to the Social Security "Normal Retirement Age" at the time of passing. That is currently 67 years old. You can do whatever you want past 67, but you can't hold public office.

[-] xtr0n@sh.itjust.works 28 points 7 months ago

Do you want them to make the retirements age 90? I’d rather not give those assholes a perverse incentive to reduce benefits.

[-] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 7 points 7 months ago

I did state "at time of passage" but we might as well say "at time of drafting" to avoid shenanigans.

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[-] Toneswirly@lemmy.world 65 points 7 months ago

Sure, but lets also investigate the House for financial ties to billionaires.

[-] cabbage@piefed.social 21 points 7 months ago

...and Russia, probably.

And investigate both sides - Russia will support both extremes in any issue that causes unrest in Western democracies. So investigating only one side is a useful propaganda tool but kind of misses the mark.

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[-] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 48 points 7 months ago

Man, these fuckers really fucking hate their base.

[-] Muyal@lemmy.world 43 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Vietnam war all over

"Foreign agents are brainwashing our youth to be against the war"

[-] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 42 points 7 months ago

"Hey guys, we need a surefire way to make our base stay home instead of vote when we have a literal fascist running who will end the Republic if he's allowed to win!"

Nancy: "Say no more fam, I got this."

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[-] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 37 points 7 months ago
[-] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 41 points 7 months ago

She’s been woefully out of touch on a lot of things for at least a decade at this point

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 32 points 7 months ago

We've gotten to the point that America is like one of those sci-fi dystopia movies where the council of elders rules the nation, kept alive artificially while the people starve.

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[-] middlemanSI@lemmy.world 31 points 7 months ago

Anything to not have to stop a genocide.

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[-] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 27 points 7 months ago

Wish I was getting paid to support Palestine.

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[-] SaltySalamander@kbin.social 26 points 7 months ago

This cunt needs to go the fuck away.

[-] jimbo@lemmy.world 23 points 7 months ago

Let's concede that the people organizing protests are receiving money from Russia. Is that actually a criminal matter? Apparently Trump's campaign working with Russia wasn't.

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[-] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 20 points 7 months ago

Dividing the party sounds like a Russian ploy. Can we investigate her first?

[-] Bitrot@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 7 months ago

Netanyahu has much to gain from a Trump presidency too.

[-] Jomega@lemmy.world 18 points 7 months ago
[-] Silverseren@kbin.social 18 points 7 months ago

Shouldn't we instead be investigating the politicians currently in office that we have a really good reason to believe have a monetary tie to Russia and have a mountain of evidence of being coerced or controlled by them due to said politicians' past actions (going to a secret meeting to Moscow on July 4th, ect)?

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[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 16 points 7 months ago

If the cons want to understand (ah, who am I kidding, they don't want to understand anything) why many of us in the reality-based community chuckle about the idea of Pelosi even being half the liberal they seem to think she is...they might take a closer look here.

[-] Zuberi@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 7 months ago

"Eat the 1%" isn't a strong enough punishment for this kind of statement

[-] Revan343@lemmy.ca 13 points 7 months ago

Those stupid fucks really want to lose the election

[-] Bitrot@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 7 months ago

Nearly every Republican will vote for Trump. Meanwhile, the Democrats are notoriously fickle already, and have to convince enough independents to vote for them, and they're doing everything in their power to alienate people in both camps.

Typical establishment hubris. The other side supports fascism, so we dare you not to vote for us, or just the assumption that enough people support them out of the gate to win (like Hillary Clinton). And we are fucked by the two party system again.

[-] Thormjolnir@lemmy.world 13 points 7 months ago

As a liberal, peolsi is sham lol anyone not pro Palestine is just evil

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[-] NegativeLookBehind@kbin.social 12 points 7 months ago

Can they also investigate her insider trading?

[-] Milk_Sheikh@lemm.ee 10 points 7 months ago

“Disinformation” has become to the left, what “fake news” is to the right - a cudgel to deflect dissent or crush differing options as false or astroturfed, and therefore not even worth discussion to dismiss

[-] wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 14 points 7 months ago

It's cute that you think Pelosi is "left-wing". Cute, but sad.

[-] Milk_Sheikh@lemm.ee 14 points 7 months ago

She’s not (by global nor US standards) but she did run the ‘left wing’ party in Congress for 20 years. So they certainly think she is.

[-] Anti_Face_Weapon@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago

You guys are getting paid!?

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[-] Foni@lemm.ee 9 points 7 months ago

So this November Americans will be able to choose between literally a Nazi and someone who strongly supports genocide and treats anyone who doesn't support it as a traitor.

Good luck with that

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[-] Bitrot@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 7 months ago

"If you can’t handle me at my worst, then you sure as hell don’t deserve me at my best." - Establishment Democrats

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago

Pelosi is just saying that opposition to genocide means you must be Russian, which is what I keep hearing from pro-genocide centrist Democrats on lemmy.

I don't get why those same centrists are turning on her.

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[-] kescusay@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I hate this timeline.

Yes, there probably are Russian agents trying to sow division any way they can, and they latch onto anything they perceive as potentially divisive. She's not wrong.

At the same time, the way Netanyahu has prosecuted this war is horrifying and reprehensible, actively costing Israel the moral high ground after Hamas' terrorist attack (something I wouldn't have believed possible) and basically doing everything Hamas could possibly want for their propaganda needs.

This situation is fucked and I hate every single thing about it.

[-] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 7 points 7 months ago

#NotTheOnion

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