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[–] kescusay@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I hate this timeline.

Yes, there probably are Russian agents trying to sow division any way they can, and they latch onto anything they perceive as potentially divisive. She's not wrong.

At the same time, the way Netanyahu has prosecuted this war is horrifying and reprehensible, actively costing Israel the moral high ground after Hamas' terrorist attack (something I wouldn't have believed possible) and basically doing everything Hamas could possibly want for their propaganda needs.

This situation is fucked and I hate every single thing about it.

[–] Binthinkin@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

Put her to bed. Her legacy is shit. How many bills have you passed that never got enforced Nancy that wound up getting you and a bunch of dipshit Republicans rich? How much more are you going to shit on the youth with your limp dick Catholic degenerate bullshit? Fuck her. She’s so clueless and useless.

[–] arymandias@feddit.de 4 points 1 year ago

Anything left of the Democrats is Russian propaganda because it has to be. If there exists a big constituency left of the Democrats than that would mean that that constituency has no political representation, due to the first pass the post system and systematic suppression by the Democrats of their left flank within the party. This would mean American democracy is hugely flawed and extra-electoral action is justified to manifest change, but this can not be the case so Q.E.D. it is all Russian disinformation. Google “Russia BLM” for some more concern trolling of this kind.

[–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 4 points 1 year ago

I could kinda believe that opponents of supporting Ukraine are Russian shills, but supporters of Palestina? If anything Russia is happy to keep the US army supply chain to be diverted to Israel instead of Ukraine.

[–] autotldr 3 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Nancy Pelosi suggested that Russia may be funding pro-Palestinian protesters who have been interrupting Democratic campaign events, saying that some calling for a ceasefire are promoting “Putin’s message.”

At an event focused on abortion rights, protesters interrupted Biden’s speech at least a dozen times, demanding a ceasefire, and they were removed from the venue.

They also appeared at his speech in Charleston’s Mother Emanuel AME Church and at a United Auto Workers event last week.

The spokesperson also noted a post on X from Ian Bremmer, a political scientist and professor at Columbia University, who wrote in response to Pelosi’s comments on CNN, “Putin benefits from continued war in Gaza and expanded chaos in the Middle East.”

Russia and Putin have supported a ceasefire and have used Israel’s aggression in Gaza to criticize the United States for its role in the conflict.

Biden also warned Israel in December that it was losing international support due to its “indiscriminate” bombing of Gaza.


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[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

Nancy needs to shut the fuck up and stop trying to give Trump the election.

[–] crystalmerchant@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

These fucking dinosaurs just don't get it, do they? They come from a time when Israel and the US were blood brothers, one and the same, when it would be unconscionable for the American public to have any other view than carte blanche 100% support for Israel.

Now that view is finally (slowly) changing but they're too old and come from too different of a world to realize it, or if they do realize it (they have plenty of smart people working for them) then they just don't grasp the changing tides

[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

So, the way these comments read there is no Russian influence campaign. Interesting.

[–] Silverseren@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Pelosi and Biden are really making me regret defending them against right wing BS conspiracy claims and tankie conspiracy claims for the past decade.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

American propaganda has a tendency to take true accusations and exaggerate them into infinity. But they are often not completely made up.

Many tankies just tend to swing too far the other way and somehow think that because America Bad the entire accusation is false. And then they start denying every single bad thing their own side has done.

I recommend this video on the Uygur genocide which heavily examplifies this issue

Shouldn't we also investigate pro-Israel defenders for Financial Ties to Defense Contractors?

[–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I need someone to ely5 how to get to this conclusion.

"For them to call for a ceasefire is Mr. Putin's message. Make no mistake. This is directly connected to what he would like to see”

How? What does he gain from it?

I bet he loves how she just added fuel to more devision.

[–] thecrotch@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

One would think Putin would have more to gain from it expanding into a regional conflict which the US/NATO get dragged into

[–] agitatedpotato@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What an utter bitch. Your finances are the ones that should be investigated.

[–] FenrirIII@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Sadly, she's following the rules that she and her colleagues made. That's the worst part

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[–] paddirn@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Not that I think she has ties to Russia, but really the FBI needs to be investigating members of Congress for ties to Russia.

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